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DLaurent

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I went to House of God a lot in the early 2000s and did not know what I was hearing. Is he still a great DJ?
 

DLaurent

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He wouldn't just mix tracks like that one with things like 'Step to Enchantment' he'd also throw in Rhythm & Sound tracks which to me at the time sounded like he was mixing dub with Techno before I knew what was going on. He seems to always keep it fresh as a DJ now which is very difficult, he played dubstep tracks with techno for a while, but even now it seems like he is more into his 'live' setup. That one's a new one to me though.
 

chava

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He wouldn't just mix tracks like that one with things like 'Step to Enchantment' he'd also throw in Rhythm & Sound tracks which to me at the time sounded like he was mixing dub with Techno before I knew what was going on. He seems to always keep it fresh as a DJ now which is very difficult, he played dubstep tracks with techno for a while, but even now it seems like he is more into his 'live' setup. That one's a new one to me though.
Yeah, I've only heard him once I think. Way, way back '95 or something. I remember he arrived in a VIP Mercedes of something like a superstar. That was pure Millsian onslaught, though and a bit too much IIRC. I'm not that familiar with his DJing really. And I am not a Surgeon fan either, he's way too adored in some of the more puritan techno circles although he's made some classics. I like the really spartan style of the early stuff, almost comically hard-edged and unemotional.
 

chava

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For a few years this was the sound of my youth and of every techno club in continental Europe at least.Perhaps this sound grew into a caricature years later, but he (Surgeon) was definately one of the defining figures establishing the real and final split between the trance/progressive house scene and the puritan techno kids. (This example obviously has trancey/prog elements)

 

IdleRich

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I went to House of God a lot in the early 2000s and did not know what I was hearing. Is he still a great DJ?
I was seeing a girl in Birmingham for a while early 2000s, used to go to... what Que Club, Sanctuary - was that where House of God was?
 

DLaurent

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I was seeing a girl in Birmingham for a while early 2000s, used to go to... what Que Club, Sanctuary - was that where House of God was?

Atomic Jam was a bigger Techno rave. I saw Hawtin, Slater and more at the Que Club and Mills and the Sanctuary. House of God was smaller but hedonistic and at Subway City.
 

thirdform

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Atomic Jam was a bigger Techno rave. I saw Hawtin, Slater and more at the Que Club and Mills and the Sanctuary. House of God was smaller but hedonistic and at Subway City.

Subway city was/is great, paul damage at 7 AM to give @Corpsey an aneurism Second and third rooms wicked as well, it was never just purist techno, sometimes you'd hear black sabbath or electro and disco/punky/hip hop weirdness in room 3, in fact when i went into the second room for the first time i heard this all time banger and i was fucked on acid so hard i forgot to ask the girls name who was talking to me, I'm such an uncouth brute I know...



Don't think you'll get nihilistic clubs like that after lockdown, it will be all about the plodding (and boring) house mainstream, no sweat dripping off the walls and it being more like an abattoir.
 

thirdform

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Don't think you'd be able to get away with dropping this at 3 AM in post-millennium berlin at its original speed, one more reason why we always did techno nights better than the Germans...
 

DLaurent

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DJ X used to play Drum and Bass in the third room if I remember right. The second room was wicked though, kind of a 'chill out' room but eclectic. I also liked the cafe type area upstairs where you could sit and just hear the thud from the techno in the main room. I only remember not getting in there once because the bouncer said 'I was wasted already' so I jumped in a taxi to my mates house.

I think ever since it's moved you'd struggle to recreate anything like it was at Subway. I think they turned it into a goth club for a while.

Which reminds me of getting girlfriend from Brighton. She wanted to go somewhere in Brum and knew of a pop club on Broad Steet similar to where she was from. I said lets go to Digbeth but it had been years since I'd been there and it turns out all the clubs like The Custard Factory and The Sanctuary are closed now. I called a mate and he said go to a place called Subside. We walked in and it was full of goths and her face just dropped. It was more gothy than a pub I used to go to as a kid called The Flapper. We had one pint in there and then went to the nice pop club she wanted to go to. I wouldn't know where to go in Brum these days as I don't think much of the Hare and Hounds in Kings Heath.
 

thirdform

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Another one which made me forget to ask a girls number back in the day, twisted my head inside out, proper frankfurt/munich brutalism. Berlin can suck it. Hearing this over a big rig is life changing. fuck communalism in clubs I want the demons to possess me. I don't even like clubs. They are shit. I just love big phat fuck off rigs. I want to make love to them every day.

 

DLaurent

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Just looking through the only Paul Damage tracklist I can find online and he plays some tracks I know now like Mike Dearborn - Birds on E but the best thing about going to these clubs for me at the time was I didn't have a clue what the music was.
 

thirdform

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Just looking through the only Paul Damage tracklist I can find online and he plays some tracks I know now like Mike Dearborn - Birds on E but the best thing about going to these clubs for me at the time was I didn't have a clue what the music was.

That is another track that completely scared the shits out of me first time I heard it.

Very few mainstream house tracks can do that, well a lot of 80s stuff can but not the 00s/10s stuff. Brilliant.
 

DLaurent

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I'd like to hear mainstream house tracks that do that. First time I heard it I wondered what was going on making the 303 scream like that. 'Acid Thunder' was a Surgeon favourite for a while, cheesy track but nonetheless one of the first house tracks I heard back when I was 14 and getting into acid and Chicago house, still quite a sexy track. I remember asking a taxi driver to play it on the back from a club at the young age we used to go to them.

Sandwell District stuff and the stuff they play is alright, there's a lot I haven't heard on Downwards, but then there's tracks like this... been overplayed by me 'recently'. Quite mellow tracks thinking about it.


 
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