top 5 avant garde electronics epics

Murphy

cat malogen
Bonus 6th


Boss mode Sun Ra


I play this often, usually at night, not to be a goth but to let the darkness and quiet add to its majesty
 

wektor

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nice URL this one
 

versh

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Some of Evol's stuff's like having your brain moulded like putty. I remember listening to Proper Headshrinker on headphones and being unable to tell whether there were variations in each track or whether the repetition forced me to project difference onto them.

It also had a similar effect to watching the fretboard movement on Guitar Hero in that I was still experiencing the motion for a while after, like my head and ears were being squeezed or turned to sponge or something.

 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
that depends on how loud you turn up the gain!
when it comes to subjectivity, this should actually be called the dad avant-garde electronica top 5, if dissensus was a guitar music forum I'm certain this would be the worst prog thread of all time

I'm Turkish so the drone is quite unremarkable for me it's something we're born with when listening to vocal music followed by taksim (solo improv.) In that context it's sublime. But drone on its own never did much for me. I would have supposed if your ears are accustomed to harmonic counterpoint rather than melodic development then it could be something.
 

wektor

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Had the pleasure of listening to the 8 channel version of Barry Truax's Basilica:

Alike to Pita's Get Out, this is another example belonging to the class of what I could call the original tunes.
While encountering it for the first time you can already tell - so many records heard before have been derived off this.
You already know it, but in the best possible way.
 

wektor

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@sufi late, but I compiled a cross-streaming playlist with some additional positions:

I am not yet at the point where I could present things with an introduction that would somehow improve the listening experience.
Maybe I will get there.
 

mvuent

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tbh i'm not even close to finished going through all these. when this list dropped, i was actually quite disappointed. because a) there was no overlap with my list and b) even worse, after skimming through, the works featured appeared to be very very good... meaning i'd have to engage with them properly sooner or later. i'm not a good first time listener, have to listen to something like 5 times before i truly feel comfortable talking about it, and with Epics like these probably even more. so far, since the revive, i've been listening to Jetsun Mila and Transformations.

but the Discussion Question i wanted to pose is: how should we characterize the Wektor Aesthetic Sensibility that runs through this list? i have my own opinion on this, but i'm curious how someone else, including the Distinguished Curator himself, would answer.
 

mvuent

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- can't hear this without thinking of “conjugaison du timbre” from de natura sonorum which uses just one type of horn for all its sonic material, the saxophone

- in both works horns appear as both transient attacks and beautiful, haunting washes of sound, but in parmegiani the sustained sounds create a kind of undulating continuum, and here they're sequenced in a way that feels more freeform, rolling in and dissipating like the fog banks that skirt the north shore mountains

- that brings us to the quirks of westerkamps’s take: “horns” is interpreted in an unrestricted sense, and it's the ostensibly amusical horns of boats, etc. that imo are used to the most chilling effect here; partway through there's the enigmatic, unexpected addition of water that has a kind of otherworldly delicacy, an asmr quality (and literally a refreshing contrast); another unusual feature is the instrumental part running throughout, playing off the harmonies of the sustained heavily processed sounds very well

- catching unexpected overlap in composers’ sound banks can be great, giving the sound in question a mysterious importance; absolutely love how the same two note foghorn that launches you into Another Place in truax’s "pacific fanfare" starts appearing toward the end (and here, again, evoking the pacific with its gray infinity, ant-sized cargo ships on the horizon, prehistoric canoe routes)

- overall there's a damp, wide open, meditative quality here that i strongly associate with the pacific northwest, but there's also a sort of late-romantic orchestral feeling that perhaps reflects the composer's european roots. a certified banger, i completely agree

(weird to think, hypothetically, my dad could’ve been taking classes from "soundscape composition" luminaries like westerkamp, truax, or schafer around when this was made. hearing stuff like this makes me sad that i didn’t end up going to SFU as well. don't think the culture there is as adventurous as it was back then in the 70s, but the architecture's great. space-age brutalism.)
 
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mvuent

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it'd be in my top one. the first true Odyssey in electronic music. unfortunately no one talks about it anymore whereas the electronic works of xenakis get a shiny new reissue every few years from the all black wearing london-berlin nts culture mafia.
 

versh

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unfortunately no one talks about it anymore whereas the electronic works of xenakis get a shiny new reissue every few years from the all black wearing london-berlin nts culture mafia.
Any particular reason or is he just out of fashion?
 
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