shakahislop
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uk comedy is in a nadir
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Is it because of woke?
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Why British satire is terrible : Correspondents 2021 : Chortle : The UK Comedy Guide
Why British satire is terrible - James Harris says you can't speak truth to power and expect to earn a living
www.chortle.co.uk
this i feel does a good sumation of the issues with british satire(and yet even then i feel like Americans would rather our shit than thier own maybe barring Atlanta)
me personally i'd blame the fact that there's so many panel shows
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You do realize you've linked an article that says it's because of woke, right?
IdleRich
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Got a friend from Australia and he was saying about how UK comedy was really good at one point, when a lot of it was really cruel and nasty. He was asking if there is anything now like the (now regarded as classic I suppose) stuff he used to see and really like in Oz... and, my answer was that I didn't really know... which is almost the same as saying "no" I suppose. To me the boring and sensible but possibly correct way of looking at is, can we realistically expect good comedy all the time. It's like Man Utd fans going "why don't we win all the time any more?" - they are looking at it the wrong way, they should be thinking "how come we had twenty years where we won everything?". Though I admit that attitude is a bit defeatist... "we had a good run, let's accept there won't be any more funny stuff". Sounds a bit depressing doesn't it. Ignore me.
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IdleRich
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Why British satire is terrible : Correspondents 2021 : Chortle : The UK Comedy Guide
Why British satire is terrible - James Harris says you can't speak truth to power and expect to earn a living
this i feel does a good sumation of the issues with british satire(and yet even then i feel like Americans would rather our shit than thier own maybe barring Atlanta)
me personally i'd blame the fact that there's so many panel shows
I know it's not the main point but can't that website afford some sort of sub-editor or at least get someone to read through the articles before they print them?
What language is that supposed to be?
shakahislop
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this is my impression too. i also would say 'i don't know'. but i think if there was anything good i probably would know about it. this thread was prompted by YouTube playing me an episode of have i got news for you from 2010. i love watching stuff from a decade or whatever ago coz you can see how much has changed. there were indeed a load of jokes that were normal then but that they would no way make now. it was also just a lot funnier than they are now. although that could be for a million reasons obviously. and yes indeed a bit harsher and a bit crueler. but not particularly harsh or particularly cruel. some older sitcoms like peepshow, which i think is the opposite of a nadir, an apex, despite being great on so many levels, there is a degree of that unpleasant technique that people used to call 'cringe', i guess it's still called that, which was one of the flavours to so much uk comedy at that time, which i never really liked
shakahislop
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i haven't read the article but it's great that a piece about satire opens with the line 'In the opening scene of Andrei Tarkovsky’s Andrei Rublev (1966), a skomorokh or medieval Slavic harlequin...' , which feels like satire in itself
Murphy
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Panel shows = state of the nation nadir, like finding yourself watching Task Master after a 20 hour shift, not quite believing you a) chose it, b) watched 10 minutes and c) found yourself wishing terrorists would storm the studio and slaughter every last parasitic ego elegy
Apathy? Millions of alternatives online. Can’t expect everything to be carried by Chris Morris 20+ years after Brass Eye. Just look at British tv
Tiktok is comedy now? Comedy, light entertainment and nonces. Again
Apathy? Millions of alternatives online. Can’t expect everything to be carried by Chris Morris 20+ years after Brass Eye. Just look at British tv
Tiktok is comedy now? Comedy, light entertainment and nonces. Again
sufi
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which is not to say that clip is not staged btw
shakahislop
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Peepshow is both funny and making a point. So is On The Hour and the Morris oeuvre, although I'm far from a fanboy. The Thick of It is funny makes a point and (at least when i first watched it) was a bit exhilarating. what happened?
shakahislop
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alternatively: were the 00's a highpoint?
IdleRich
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The article was, as I said, very badly written, but it seems extraordinary to misunderstand it to that extent.
Wait a minute though, I just found this absolutely conclusive proof that the more woke something is, the less funny. Case closed.
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Eg. "and for content it’s a world of sensitivity readers and release forms."