Rod Modell

DLaurent

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A favourite producer of mine but I don't think he's that in favour on here? Could be wrong and he's been talked about before, but I get the feeling he is not really appreciated as much as I do, that and his atmospheric dub techno soundscapes aren't as esoteric as they might be due to the wealth of copycat dub techno artists?
 

Leo

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I still have the Echospace "the coldest season" cd, but felt I didn't need to investigate further.
 

DLaurent

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I don't listen to much ambient but always put on Rod Modell albums when I want some warmth. His music has a 'glow' I can't explain.

It's the kind of stuff I don't mind collecting as it belongs in a museum.

He should sound design some films.
 

mvuent

Void Dweller
glad you started this thread. there was a point in like 2018 where i was sure rod modell was about to become one of my favorite producers but it just never quite happened. so imo he's an interesting artist to discuss.

definitely agree about his sounds having a special "glow" he's like the rothko of dub techno in that regard. and i get the sense that if you listened to all his stuff as deepchord in chronological order you would hear this "midas touch" gradually expand to cover a wider and wider range of timbres. as of "the coldest reason" the classic dub techno chords are already perfected but the wind sounds are still a bit crude—whereas if you listen to his stuff from the 2010s, on a basic level he's still probably just filtering white noise, but the specific forms he sculpts get more and more vivid and satisfying, at least to my ear.

plus not only is he great at shaping individual sounds, he's also good at sequencing them. in particular he's skilled at weaving together these atmospheres that are basically static yet feel alive and breathing. he obviously listens to nature really closely. for example if you just stay in one place and listen to your environment for a while you'll often hear a lot of distant, enigmatic one-off sounds (someone shouting, a car door slamming shut, etc.) that come and go in the blink of an eye, and he's one of the only producers i've heard include those sorts of incidental details in his music.

...so it might seem weird to say that this same voraciousness for "painting" the sonic landscapes of the world is actually what bothers me about his music. or more accurately, it's his urge to do this combined with his urge to simultaneously hold onto the basic channel-isms that he started with. even when they don't fit. the thing about basic channel (and vainqueur - elevation, etc.) is it's just about the most machinic/posthuman/postearth/"hard sci fi" music ever made. that's where it's power comes from. it's atmospheric, sure, but in a completely different way than say, new age music. the chords and kinetics of basic channel instill experiences that seem to come from a world so far in the future that campfires by lake huron or forests in western europe—or whatever modell finds himself painting sonically—aren't even distant memories. so for me the associations that different aspects of his music create clash with one other. they don't cohere into an appealing diegesis. arid futurism and warm pastoralism cancel each other out.

and maybe he's just joking, but it's baffling to me how he'll say in interviews that in his music the bassline and kick are incidental and that he actually prefers the versions without them. it's like, why keep them in, then, other than out of habit? it's as if these old techno tropes are a ball and chain for him, aesthetically. i think he says it's to create a sense of forward motion but for me the lush real world environment sounds + motorik propulsion sometimes bring out unfortunate associations with those car commercials that are just a bunch of HD shots of the car zooming through some scenic landscape.

basically i think he's a true master craftsman who unfortunately applies his craft to aesthetically confused ends. obviously one might counter than i should just shut up, stop overthinking it, and just enjoy the nice relaxing tunes.... but i just really like when music evokes a compelling and coherent world in my head. that's what it comes down to.
 

Murphy

cat malogen
Only release which stuck was Modell's own mix on a Mike Huckerby 12":


11 locked minutes. Tidal waves rising and panning, a swirling wonder of dubby harmonics so you can tease it in and out by cutting and pasting, or opt for a longer smoother balancing transition by beat matching while trying to find the perfect accompanying tunes to mix with it (neither routes are wrong). As momentum adds weight to its bottom end, the track genuinely opens up like a flower at volume and thumps too




After rinsing said track can't say too much else other than he can be very very tracky, tyranny of the beat as Mvuent states. Too stripped down percussively to engage your third-ear and the whole world building exercise of supposed depth and warmth doesn't add up coherently. It's as if he found his niche early on and got a bit too comfortable in residence for anything to grow or rise up into transcendentally magical realms. One listen and your brain immediately fill in the gaps re where it's headed and as soon as any disinterest kicks in, you can't quite re-engage
 

DLaurent

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I like his ambient stuff more than his stuff with proper beats I think. I think this sample pack is his work? Ok it's a sample pack but really condenses the ideas in to short bursts, pure sound design named after synths or stuff. There's moments of pure Sci Fi on there, like the track Thought Experiment, augmented chords that remind me of Polynomial C or something similar the way it's composed with mathematical perfection.



I bought the library but just to listen to as prefer to make my own sounds.
 

william_kent

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echospace is confusing because it was Modell and the guy who mismanages echospace[detroit], but it may just be the other guy now and it's only when the title is "Deepchord presents Echospace" that Rod is involved - there's "the longest running negative thread" on discogs which consists of people complaining that their hundreds of dollars worth of echospace[detroit] orders have never arrived, and then someone will chip in and say "Rod's not involved in the running of the label" and any rip-offs are the fault of the label boss / ex-bandmate of Rod

here's a link to the echofraud thread ( just posted this so I have a handy link )

anyway, I've not heard too much of the vast discography, but I do have a CD of the "Vantage Isle Sessions" which I enjoy - it's basically 13 versions of the same track, but the cumulative effect of listening them in a row induces a relaxed state of mind



Deepchord - Vantage Isle ( DC Mix II )
 

william_kent

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Deepchord was once Rod Modell, and Mike Schommer, who allegedly got dropped because he bootlegged their own recordings... but i'm only posting this to preserve this anecdote by Schommer about the genesis of DC 15, which is the anthesis of "nature":

Mike Schommer: "Each release has a unique story behind it for sure, but the most memorable experience was my last release on Deepchord Records (DC15). I mixed this full-length project at the Crown Motel on Woodward/McNichols in Detroit. This motel was a class A dump! The only people that were crazy enough to rent rooms from the Crown were prostitutes, drug addicts, and dub techno musicians. After talking with the attendant, Rod and I drove into the courtyard to find hookers and various drug dealings taking place. At that point, I knew it was the perfect place to mix my project. It took us about thirty minutes to haul my PS3100 and a pile of esoteric equipment into a ground level motel room. I was concerned with all that gear going back and forth between the car and room, but most people were bewildered as to what was going on. They probably thought we were hauling in antique telephone equipment or something (until the windows started to rattle!) With all of my gear spread out over the nasty stained up motel bed (patch cables running everywhere), I flung open the heavy drapes and overlooked the magnificent Crown Motel courtyard, cranked the speakers, and began mixing the depressing grit and grime of the transient life that was before my eyes. As I was recording, the environment became impregnated into the music much like the stains in the permanently soiled carpets of the motel room floor."
 
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