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WashYourHands
Cat Malogen
Love riding bikes, never watch pro cycling or athletics because of doping
List of Tour cyclists stripped of yellow because of compounds x, y and z is beyond (cue call for all-doping games set up), or worse
List of Tour cyclists stripped of yellow because of compounds x, y and z is beyond (cue call for all-doping games set up), or worse
Leo
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no one else would have me.
OK Bear with me I'm trying to get an aesthetic cluster going
Pawn Stars
John Six Shooter Linebaugh
Ice Road Truckers
woops
is not like other people
theres a good book about high rolling card players by al alvarez. its called the only game in town
Give us some excerpts and insights, we can't be expected to read a whole book on this basis woops
linebaugh
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the cheating in baseball is insane. Ive only seen video like the one youve linked so I proabably have no more insight than you. Wild that there is a litteral arms race component to the sport though, with players hiring the scientists and labs to develop the best 'sticky substance' and one pitcher purportedly getting a massive contract because he would share his league best sticky stuff recipe with the team.
linebaugh
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Ive watched the video and I still dont entirely get it. She thought he was bluffing so she called it. Is it because she only called with a jack high? jack is still relatively high no? seems like she registered that garret was trying for the straight, didnt get it and decided to bluff the hand, and from there she decided to roll the dice on the split chance that he had a 7/8 and not jack/queen.
linebaugh
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linebaugh
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in short he was a ref that was betting on games. He was involved with some bookie that would tell him which way to affect the spread, and if he got the correct pick, said bookie would give him 2000 dollars. He was also betting on the games himself.
The intrigue comes from a few things-
-During his tenure there were two of the most suspicous playoff series in league history - the 2002 kings/lakers series and the 2006 Mavs/Heat finals. The legacy of these two series are that even if people wont outright say they were rigged (which they probably werent to the point where the game was pre decided), its casual consensus that there was 'something off.' Worth noting that donaghy did not ref these series however.
-A majority of NBA referees at the time came from Delaware county in pennsylvania, Donaghy included. And its not like theres some referee training academy there, so on the surface its peculiar that this suburb would produce most of the leagues refs.
-The story was initially leaked to the press by an unknown source rather than the FBI releasing it on it own terms. Some beleive that the FBI was planning further investegation into all refs and when nba executives got wind of it they leaked the story so as to make it impossible for the FBI to catch any other crooked refs , make the Donaghy incident look isolated and save the integrity of the league.
-Tim donaghy was in constant correspondance with other ref Scott Foster, Im talking thousands of phone calls and messages, yet scott foster was never investigated and still works today.
The intrigue comes from a few things-
-During his tenure there were two of the most suspicous playoff series in league history - the 2002 kings/lakers series and the 2006 Mavs/Heat finals. The legacy of these two series are that even if people wont outright say they were rigged (which they probably werent to the point where the game was pre decided), its casual consensus that there was 'something off.' Worth noting that donaghy did not ref these series however.
-A majority of NBA referees at the time came from Delaware county in pennsylvania, Donaghy included. And its not like theres some referee training academy there, so on the surface its peculiar that this suburb would produce most of the leagues refs.
-The story was initially leaked to the press by an unknown source rather than the FBI releasing it on it own terms. Some beleive that the FBI was planning further investegation into all refs and when nba executives got wind of it they leaked the story so as to make it impossible for the FBI to catch any other crooked refs , make the Donaghy incident look isolated and save the integrity of the league.
-Tim donaghy was in constant correspondance with other ref Scott Foster, Im talking thousands of phone calls and messages, yet scott foster was never investigated and still works today.
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Yeah I'm not totally sure, it doesn't feel so crazy to me but I don't have a great intuition, have probably only played a dozen games of poker in my life. Watching pro poker videos it does seem like bluffs of this magnitude (having absolutely nothing, and putting that much money on the line) don't really happen perhaps? E.g. compare the math behind the Brunson vid Mvuent linked. I don't have an opinion other than you see the reaction—the other players freak out, either taking their hat off and bowing, or going "That's the weirdest hand I've ever seen in poker."
One thing I love about these videos is the lingo. Don't get me wrong, the commentator here is obnoxious, but the density of jargon is beautiful to watch. A whole world of its own, an entire language.
linebaugh
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listening some more its seems that its unheard of to call a bluff if you cant assure you'll win the high card with an ace. the commentator says 'if she had an ace, that would make sense.'
woops
is not like other people
you can't expect me to listen to a whole podcast on this basis
