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I expected 'the passenger' to be much slower given all the 'slow cinema' talk

I can see why it has that tag on it but it seemed to me that most of the time something was happening even if very slowly, particularly in that final slowww zoom...

I found the bit where nicholson tells his lover about the blind guy who gets his vision back and then kills himself so on the nose of what you'd expect from a european arthouse film... But i guess that's not antonionionioni's fault
 
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wonder if PTA referenced this shot in 'the master' when Jacky Pheonix is passed out on top of the ship?
 
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Corpsey said:
I found the bit where nicholson tells his lover about the blind guy who gets his vision back and then kills himself so on the nose of what you'd expect from a european arthouse film... But i guess that's not antonionionioni's fault
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and the lens of him being a detached liberal yearning to be a revolutionary makes this scene better, too

i figured it was more of a nihilistic conversation — but that's because i'd been led by scattered reading to expect an an existential film (in the gloomy mode) about the solitary existence we ALL LIVE MAN... which would have made it more cliched arthouse fare

this political stuff actually cancels out some of the negative feelings i have about the film. maybe i'll rewatch asap
 
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this kind of thing

"On the review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes, 88% of 74 critics' reviews are positive, with an average rating of 8.1/10. The website's consensus reads: "Antonioni's classic, a tale of lonely, estranged characters on a journey though the mysterious landscapes of identity, shimmers with beauty and uncertainty.""
 
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The scene with the taped conversation where the camera moves through both time and space is brilliant, also love the exchange between Nicholson and Schneider where she says something about people disappearing every day and he says "Every time they leave the room."
 
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The scene with the taped conversation where the camera moves through both time and space is brilliant, also love the exchange between Nicholson and Schneider where she says something about people disappearing every day and he says "Every time they leave the room."
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Every film I've seen of his has felt like a ghost story from the perspective of the ghost. Sometimes the protagonist's the ghost, sometimes everyone is. He may have a character die or disappear at some point, but it's always felt as though the whole thing's situated within a sort of limbo or afterlife in the first place.
 
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went to see zabriske point in theaters the other day.... could not get on board.... still have a lot of interest in this guy as La Notte has stuck with me quite a bit. he has a film with alan deloin that i should watch, as well as the passenger with jack that ive been desperate to watch.
 
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it is a shit film

I tried to explain to my best friend ( who is not the "love of my life', even though I love her dearly, but more like a sister ) that Zabriskie Point is a bit of a shit film, boring as fuck if I am being honest

edit: is the soundtrack supposed to be worth it? who is Pink? etc.,
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dreadful acting too, but im sure that was intentional or whatever.... yea when the credits at the start showed all the different songs from pink floyd, rolling stones, and grateful dead it was quite funnily overcompensating for how shit the film was about to be.
 
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Zabriskie Point's the one Welles parodies in The Other Side of the Wind. He actually shot some of the film in the house opposite the one from ZP.

“According to a young American film critic, one of the great discoveries of our age is the value of boredom as an artistic subject,” Welles says in another interview. If so, Michelangelo Antonioni “deserves to be counted as a pioneer and founding father,” a maker of movies that amount to “perfect backgrounds for fashion models.”
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I really liked ZP on second watch. It's slow at points but some scenes really stick with me. The opening Berkeley activist meeting is pure documentary. The flirtation between him in the plane, and her in the car, when he does flyovers and drops a red kerchief. The corporate oasis she heads to at the end, to join her father.
 
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