that place is certified though, most folks on here would fit right in. I went there to see russell hasswell a short while ago, feels like someone's crowded, sweaty living room. heating blasted, lads in their 50s really having it, powell sitting down because he's so tall he gets anxiety when standing. got ID'd at the bar, bumped into some friends, russ was downing cans one after the other. good fucken night.