shakahislop

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napoli's a vision of what a future poor europe might look like, if that happens. european cities with a middle-income level of development. a colombian or peruvian amount of money and the loosening and roughness that brings. a level of dysfunction. a distinguishing feature of western europe is how well things function. it's one of the axes that you're always seeing when you go to different places. whether the systems work. nyc is all dysfunction. japan and germany are pure obsessive function. delhi is dysfunction. and so on. human systems working or not. cooperation and enforcement. dysfunction is more exciting, and more of a human way to live, when you've got to work things out on your own

the train to the airport in milan was a calm, easy movement. like an engineer had designed it. here is the train station in the middle of the city, go and sit on the clean quiet train and go to the airport, coz we know you need to go to the airport. the train to manhattan from jfk is the confusing airtrain to the long island railroad, coz the E is down, the LIRR crawls along, you can't actually get out the train from the carriage i was in, you've got to lug your shit down to the other carriages, into the dank subway, the D is broken, needles and rubbish on the tracks. function vs dysfunction
 
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I was at a Carrefour fifteen minutes ago and it was nice enough but felt like a slightly above average NYC supermarket. Not as nice as Westside Market—its beyond me how anyone could go to Westside Market and think America has no good supermarkets. But maybe nicer than Morton Williams.

Mind you it's not a Keyfoods which is budget grocery.

Still, I enjoyed your thoughtful, you're probably right about a lot of it, and coastal uppermiddleclass supermarkets like Westside don't stand in for American groceries generally

But are Milanese working classes going to Carrefour either? Or do they have their Walmart equivalent?
 

shakahislop

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I was at a Carrefour fifteen minutes ago and it was nice enough but felt like a slightly above average NYC supermarket. Not as nice as Westside Market—its beyond me how anyone could go to Westside Market and think America has no good supermarkets. But maybe nicer than Morton Williams.

Mind you it's not a Keyfoods which is budget grocery.

Still, I enjoyed your thoughtful, you're probably right about a lot of it, and coastal uppermiddleclass supermarkets like Westside don't stand in for American groceries generally

But are Milanese working classes going to Carrefour either? Or do they have their Walmart equivalent?
i go to westside market all the time and it's fucking terrible

carrefour is a standard french supermarket, very normal, everyone goes there
 
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