Lana

shakahislop

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both of them are assembling and rearranging elements from all over the place and for both of them a big part of that is the auto-everything thing that's going on across pretty much every form of culture. lana was doing something different early on but now she's in the autobiographical mode. there's a willingness for both of them to say things that come from the heart but which are essentially unpleasant, not tolerated, going to upset people, from a huge platform
 
shakahislop

shakahislop

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they're the yin and yang of the current formation of american sexuality. lana's girly submission to a man thing is the flipside of kanye's unhinged machismo thing and they're both conflicted about it. unsettled by the whole thing. but also both glorifying it inside of this glossy production
 
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shakahislop said:
both of them are assembling and rearranging elements from all over the place and for both of them a big part of that is the auto-everything thing that's going on across pretty much every form of culture. lana was doing something different early on but now she's in the autobiographical mode. there's a willingness for both of them to say things that come from the heart but which are essentially unpleasant, not tolerated, going to upset people, from a huge platform
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Do you think Lana will get herself cancelled by going on a talk show and shooting her mouth off about her irrational hatred of eskimos or something like that?
 
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She is the epitome of all the ideas Eliot discusses in "Tradition & the Individual Talent." She is that great synthesis of 20th C high modernism and its 21st century antithesis, poptimism. She has dissolved her personality as "Lizzy Grant" and taken on that impersonal, cultural constellation of desire that is the American psyche, embodied it and turned it into ear candy.
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Benny Bunter

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Love the way Todd Terry nonchalantly ripped off Detroit and Chicago and made it a million times better on the most primitive of equipment like it was nothing for him.
 
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thirdform

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lol this old chestnut again, his music owes more to nyc freestyle than anything.

Don't think the detroit and chicago lot saw it as a rip off, think you've just taken the anti-techno purists attitude too much to heart, in typically anglo-empiricist and undialectical fashion.

If he ripped off anyone it would be Curtis Mantronik,
 
Benny Bunter

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In typically anglo-empericist anti-techno fashion I do declare - Detroit is fucking BORING compared to Todd Terry
 
Benny Bunter

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thirdform said:
lol this old chestnut again, his music owes more to nyc freestyle than anything.

Don't think the detroit and chicago lot saw it as a rip off, think you've just taken the anti-techno purists attitude too much to heart, in typically anglo-empiricist and undialectical fashion.

If he ripped off anyone it would be Curtis Mantronik,
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I give fire and love eye emojis to your posts and this is what I get
 
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thirdform

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detroit music wasn't sample based, whereas todd terry was almost all sample based and presaged UK hardcore.
 
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