To What Extent Was 'Zomby - Where Were U In '92?' A Real Jungle Album?

william_kent

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Was it you saying that smooth operator by sade was about smack? Big if true.

every Sade tune is essentialy a smack tune, but it was "The Sweetest taboo" I was talking about where it is an explicit, yet heavily veiled, ode for her love of the brown



sade - the sweetest taboo

edit: she's even riding a 'horse' in the video, hiding in plain sight, etc

there's a quiet storm
it never felt like this before
giving me the sweetest taboo
 

catalog

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But is there any documentary evidence of it?

Also @william_kent I meant to tell you, I seem to have misplaced that little tarot deck. I'm sure I'll find it, but that is reason I've not posted 3 cards for you.

I have thought of a question, but something interesting is happening with the questions, as soon as I settle on one and try to find the deck, the question seems to answer itself...

I've had 3 or 4 where this has happened.

I keep a log of the questions.
 

william_kent

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But is there any documentary evidence of it?

Also @william_kent I meant to tell you, I seem to have misplaced that little tarot deck. I'm sure I'll find it, but that is reason I've not posted 3 cards for you.

I have thought of a question, but something interesting is happening with the questions, as soon as I settle on one and try to find the deck, the question seems to answer itself...

I've had 3 or 4 where this has happened.

I keep a log of the questions.

tarot works in mysterious ways

as for Sade, why did she disappear from sight?

I know people who know Bez's media team and they asked me 'why do you not hear about Bez nowadays?' and the answer was because the team are doing their job well
 

catalog

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I used to see bez in unicorn quite a lot, he looked really well. I did stop him to say hi and he said hi, could see he wanted no more. He was buying shit loads of fizzy mineral water.

Also William Kent, let's go twh together sometime. Saturday night. I'll drive, pick you and drop you. I don't drink or do drugs at twh.
 

catalog

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But she's always had a few social/conscious tunes... Like eg "feel no pain" on "love deluxe"



She's not singing about her own life there...

I mean, you could be right, but seems off to me
 

The King of Pussy Gettin

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there is something quintessential about this type of personality isn't it
the drug induced social climbing
some talent but also a great amount of overconfidence in it
the belief in creating a mixed feelings type of appeal through mysterious/snarky/I am the single legit person on the scene rn/dickhead behaviour etc

all feels like an inherent part of the rave music scene to me somehow
dead ass. know so many people like this + cannot fucking stand them omfg
 

wektor

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Did Rustie get into smack? I saw him and hud mo at a warp gig and he looked so young. Had a massive baseball cap. I liked that first one he did


i think both him n hudmo were into benzo and opiates but eventually recovered. rustie was not around for a long time, but then I swear I've seen his name on one of festival posters in New Cross last year summer.
I highly rate Rustie first of all due to that youtu be video of him spitting bars over happy hardcore at 12yo
 

dilbert1

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what you recon about coco brice? musically not politically.

Randomly sat next to him on the train and gave him props for his set with Tim Reaper here a couple weeks ago actually!

I think he’s made some very quality jungle tracks. And that also, a good deal of his stuff’s way too clean, safe, bloodless and boring for my personal taste. Not sure the last thing he’s put out that I’ve really enjoyed tbh. I’ve got some favorites though for sure. He returned to producing jungle around the time I was first getting into the classics, I was listening to him, FFF and Dead Man’s Chest a lot, felt cool that there was this “back to circa ‘94” thing for me to feel at home with so some personal sentimental value. He’s a good DJ, definitely favors the girly piano diva hardcore vibe (during his set he was lip synching to the vocal bits like mad), and has put up a lot of great old school tunes on his YT channel.

I guess it’d be easy to call him some kind of jungle gentrifier or something from a purist standpoint, plus he’s Dutch so that wouldn’t help him there. I’ve always disliked the Snoopy, Calvin and Hobbes, Simpsons, etc. nostalgic cartoon art (UKG-revivalists esp do this ad nauseam) but then again who cares if its a tune. Like the media did with Reaper and Sherelle, he’s probably become overhyped. I just look at him as an older guy who, like me, really loves skateboarding and jungle, and who might turn up to your town and play out some good tunes.
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
What’s your take on him @thirdform ? Or anyone else who cares to share

I said in the jungle thread but he over(relies) on amens and that can leave me a bit cold. It's kind of weird saying this given I'm talking to a yank here and you guys invented the amen but there came a point where I just felt like people didn't want to do the work to use different breaks.

For me, breaks are a big part of it, the friction of the chopped breaks are a massive component of jungle vis-a-vis happier hardcore, piano house etc.









 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
like yes jungle is about collision for me sure but it's also about the drums. In house and techno the drums inflect the synth textures, propell the rhythm forward in a climbing motion by augmenting its momentum in a vertical fashion. In contrast, Jungle drums are much more horizontal, they also push the track forward yes, but they swerve, duck and turn, fold and unfold upon each other. If house and techno is the hill or the treadmill, jungle is the motorway or the tube. Ironic given the love of detroit techno with cars, but that's just the way it is.
 
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