in this thread to the horror and consternation

mvuent

Void Dweller
I was thinking of this post, but reading back you did qualify with 80s detroit techno

i was also being a bit flippant there, trying to stir the pot in a way that might get some good defenses out of people. obviously didn't work. this was more my real opinion:

so i just think it's hard to pin down exactly what people heard in the early detroit stuff that they didn't anywhere else. it is for me anyways. obviously it's still good music.
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
I'm not sure why detroit seems to solicit strong opinions from people as well. either excessive reverence or excessive disdain. It's bizarre. I love the music but not as an outgrowth of an arty punk sensibility but as part of a black dance music continuum, from which hardcore, jungle and garage are also branches.
 

0bleak

Well-known member
I'm not sure why detroit seems to solicit strong opinions from people as well. either excessive reverence or excessive disdain. It's bizarre. I love the music but not as an outgrowth of an arty punk sensibility but as part of a black dance music continuum, from which hardcore, jungle and garage are also branches.

I hardly ever seen excessive disdain though.
I mean, you've got people like the "liberators" (lame) with funny not really serious disses.
I really feel like the lone voice on this on thinking how 99% is overrated.
I'd rather listen and dance to quality non-electronic music like funk or disco than most detroit.
 

thirdform

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I hardly ever seen excessive disdain though.
I mean, you've got people like the "liberators" (lame) with funny not really serious disses.
I really feel like the lone voice on this on thinking how 99% is overrated.
I'd rather listen and dance to quality non-electronic music like funk or disco than most detroit.

I think it's a pretty common attitude in certain UK and Euro scenes which don't really have that connection to funk and disco.

One of my friends loves freetekno and doesn't really rate detroit, which i find bizarre. so much freetekno is the lamest music ever made, imo...
 

thirdform

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is drexciya too electro?
i dunno, maybe i like more than i think i do 😆

imo techno and electro are the same thing, but ive always thought of
techno as open ended, hence why i consider a lot of the breakbeat tracks in this thread techno, even though strictly speaking they are hardcore.
 

line b

Well-known member
mister @dilbert1 do you agree with the central thesis of this thread wrt new junglists and their lack of techno techno techno?

@sus and @linebaugh have remained conspicuously silent.
I’m not sure I know what new junglists even sound like. In America a new wave of jungle adjacent music is called break core and at least aesthetically it seems techno leaning but I don’t listen to that either
 

DLaurent

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I've stopped studying Hardcore and Jungle as I'm rarely in the mood. It's a lot more energetic than a lot of Detroit Techno. Maybe not always and they're intertwined in my head but a different lineage to both, only as far as Detroit Techno would have existed without Jungle but Jungle would have sounded different without Techno.

That being said, I no longer really know what these tunes were and who played them.

What's this? Just Jungle Techno?



Same for this?



This one even earlier.

 

DLaurent

Well-known member
Or Amens in Dave Clarkes first record.



and the Kevin Saunderson influence



All took some digging as I prefer neat Techno these days, maybe it's just the Belgian sound I'm thinking of.
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
him?
me?
I generally prefer my divas over "organic"
but what do I know about myself, really... I'll probably start thinking of another list of exceptions again 😆

oh i meant my freetekno friend but then deleted it cos i didn't finish that thought lol.
 

thirdform

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no response from the big d man. i was going to hope he bullied all the jungle revival djs to play 91-92 uk ardkore techno obscurities when they tour the states and trigger psychosis in the hipsters. sad.
 
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