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linebaugh

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alien romulus I think is really well made but its aims are so low and unambitious its barely passable. It was a fun theatre watch but probably not much else. The final act was nice though
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
Alien I think is one of those exceptional franchises which, in theory, has an indefinitely reusable premise. Change the setting, change the characters, and you can have another solid sci-fi thriller. Changing the genre (like from Alien to Aliens), or introduce more lore into it (like Prometheus), can also work. Very dexterous premise.

It can also lend itself to auteur-shifting, such as when Jeunet did Alien Resurrection, or how Noah Hawley is doing the Alien series. For a while wasn;t Neill Blomkamp gonna do an Alien film? Its an interesting notion, that a franchise can undergo personality transformations as it gets passed along from one auteur to the next.

MCU would arguably benefit from this approach. Theyve had Taika Wahtiti, Kenneth Branagh, Scott Derrickson, Shane Black, Ryan Coogler, but really none of them (aside from Wahtiti) had their auteur style endure this homogenizing influence probably attributable to the producers.
 

Clinamenic

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A lot of other big franchises don't have such a strong definitive elements to support indefinite iterations.

Fast and Furious is characterized by increasingly outlandish motor stunts, which is cool but has obvious growth problems.

MCU seems to run on intertwining lore between characters, owing to mountains of source material, which is pretty sustainable. Plus a bunch of special effects, which alone couldn't prop up something this massive.

John Wick originally had a great, simple premise, and amazing stunt choreograohy, and managed to build out enough cool lore to sustain a few sequels, but even the lore and choreography have their limits in terms of the number of installments they can drive.

But alien combines its definitive elements (twelve little indians + bottle episode + body horror) in a way that I think has more enduring franchise pontential than most of these, maybe with the exception of MCU, which again just has heaps of source material to pull from.
 

Clinamenic

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The Trip franchise is another great example. It has its audience, and its charm is virtually inexhaustible.
 

version

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But alien combines its definitive elements (twelve little indians + bottle episode + body horror) in a way that I think has more enduring franchise pontential than most of these, maybe with the exception of MCU, which again just has heaps of source material to pull from.

The Predator franchise has lots of possibilities, at least in terms of setting. You can pick any historical period you like and have the thing hunting people.
 

kid charlemagne

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slop is slop, the film seems no different than the deadpool wolverine film. they also use ai for a dead guy.... even more reason to boycott
 

kid charlemagne

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Alien I think is one of those exceptional franchises which, in theory, has an indefinitely reusable premise. Change the setting, change the characters, and you can have another solid sci-fi thriller. Changing the genre (like from Alien to Aliens), or introduce more lore into it (like Prometheus), can also work. Very dexterous premise.

It can also lend itself to auteur-shifting, such as when Jeunet did Alien Resurrection, or how Noah Hawley is doing the Alien series. For a while wasn;t Neill Blomkamp gonna do an Alien film? Its an interesting notion, that a franchise can undergo personality transformations as it gets passed along from one auteur to the next.

MCU would arguably benefit from this approach. Theyve had Taika Wahtiti, Kenneth Branagh, Scott Derrickson, Shane Black, Ryan Coogler, but really none of them (aside from Wahtiti) had their auteur style endure this homogenizing influence probably attributable to the producers.
tho outside of the mcu fan sphere, these films in the mcu by these "auteurs" seem pretty forgotten and overlooked especially when the directors are discussed.... just unoriginal cashgrabs....
 

version

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For a while wasn;t Neill Blomkamp gonna do an Alien film?

Yeah, he wanted to do another with the Ripley character and Weaver was keen to return. He released some concept art for it that looked pretty good.

Though Alien: Xeno was cut short early in its development, Alien fans did receive a significant amount of insight into how Blomkamp's movie would have altered the series. Concept art of Alien: Xeno would have not only seen Ripley return but also the return of Michael Biehn's Hicks and an older Newt, presumably retconning their off-screen deaths in Alien 3 and diverging the franchise's narrative into a new continuity. Even with old favorite characters returned, the concept art also featured new types of Xenomorphs, a jungle setting, new mercenary group factions, and deadly new androids.

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version

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That recent Predator film Shane Black wrote and directed was one of the worst films I've ever seen. I can't even put my finger on what exactly made it so bad, it was just awful.
 

Corpsey

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The Trip franchise is another great example. It has its audience, and its charm is virtually inexhaustible.
You've seen the TV series I hope? Always find it weird that a lot of ppl have only seen the films.

Haven't gone to see it yet, no. I'm skint as fuck til payday. But I probably won't even go tbh. I've read enough lukewarm feedback to put me off.
 
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