The multiverse and modal realism

hmg

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Isn't it odd that the size of the observable universe is exactly the same as the schwarzchild radius if we were inside a black hole? Small world!
 

hmg

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In this model, one could argue that consciousness is the gradual knowing+/-of+/-itself by the holographic boundary, which has been shown to be a complete account of the information in the universe. So our experiences could be the last gasp of cosmic information before it vanishes over the event horizon as Hawking radiation. What do you reckon?

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hmg

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While riding my bike, I was thinking about multiverses. So there is the model where they are isolated from one other, inflationary bubbles separated in n dimensions, at the largest macroscopic level. then there are other models where they are interleaved in n dimensional space, separate but adjacent at the smallest, most fundamental level. Planck's length separation Vs at least 1 schwarzchild radius separation.

Which then made me think about entanglement, specifically the classic conception of entangled particles at either end of the universe, and the inexplicably instant determination of the one's state on the other's complementary observed state. what does that observed behaviour suggest about the nature of the multiverse?

Absolutely nothing! Not a sausage.
 

mixed_biscuits

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If a new universe/s is/are created whenever mutually exclusive events can occur maybe it's simpler for them to be overlapping but non-interacting, identical in every other respect apart from these new events. But then I don't think things necessarily need be simpler or that we know what would make them ultimately simpler.

I was thinking that parallel universes are required in order to make probability and free will things, as the claim that a coin could have landed heads rather than tails can only be proven should it have landed both given the same starting conditions. Apparently a similar idea is behind modal realism; I'd like to know how logical my notion is.

Does the multiverse do away with the need for time, as all the quantum mechanical maths has already played out? This would accord with reports that time is an illusion and explain why time is violated in experiments showing backwards and forwards causality and, I suppose, in the action of entanglement.
 

mixed_biscuits

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Because all the maths is played out all possible routes are available and our role as largely time-bound consciousnesses with free will is to choose our route. Do we also spawn new copies of us for each choice, including ones that have made the other possible choices? This is what Seth says in the not 100% credible Seth material source!
 

mixed_biscuits

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In this model, one could argue that consciousness is the gradual knowing+/-of+/-itself by the holographic boundary, which has been shown to be a complete account of the information in the universe. So our experiences could be the last gasp of cosmic information before it vanishes over the event horizon as Hawking radiation. What do you reckon?

(Keep a diary)

The 3D space is encodable in 2D with the extra dimension a result of our involvement, just as time may not ultimately be required but is brought into action to provide constraints and opportunities for our particular and peculiar existence.
 

william_kent

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The 3D space is encodable in 2D with the extra dimension a result of our involvement, just as time may not ultimately be required but is brought into action to provide constraints and opportunities for our particular and peculiar existence.

my experiments with quaternions would maybe relevant, but at this point in time and space, NO
 

mixed_biscuits

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The 3D space is encodable in 2D with the extra dimension a result of our involvement, just as time may not ultimately be required but is brought into action to provide constraints and opportunities for our particular and peculiar existence.
In practical terms one can get a sense of the wider scheme outside of our embodied individuation through those odd moments of telepathy, presentiment, deja vu but I still don't understand how synchronicities come about.
 

william_kent

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Do they suggest that we have a deeper influence on reality around us, or is it that reality around us is just toying with us?...who's in control here?

I don't know! I'd ask my spirit guide but she was a bit angry with me the last time I smoked DMT and she wouldn't "let me in"+ I spent 15 minutes looking at "trails" bouncing around a coffee table, it was shit. ( in comparison to a true breakthrough experience, blah blah bah _
 

mixed_biscuits

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I don't know! I'd ask my spirit guide but she was a bit angry with me the last time I smoked DMT and she wouldn't "let me in"+ I spent 15 minutes looking at "trails" bouncing around a coffee table, it was shit. ( in comparison to a true breakthrough experience, blah blah bah _
What are trails?
 

mixed_biscuits

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have you ever done psychedelics?

I like you so I don't want to be patronising or whatever, but "trails" are level 0 in the psychonaut class, it's like when you wave you hand in front of your face and little rainbows lag behind
Never, but I do occasionally see smoky wisps for no apparent reason having taken nothing.
 
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