Will the Objects Win?

Murphy

cat malogen
Triggered!

Precursors to monuments in nw Europe ie Mesolithic pre-agriculture but extends to coastal sites all around the world heavy in shellfish deposits. Resource hubs as points in a seasonal round of tasks and easy protein in tough winters

Ephemeral too if you trace footprints along seasonal Mesolithic coastal routes, eg you can trace adults walking tide lines with kids running and playing around them dotted up and down the Severn estuary , ephemeral as in revealed at low tides and washed away as the tide turns back in once exposed

Good preservation around coasts with soil and sand reducing decay from oxygen exposure. Likewise inland with the classic hunter gatherer lakeside encampment of Star Carr in what’s now Yorkshire


Famous for its antler headdress, the holes aren’t eye holes but for tying it securely to the head, has a certain presence to it

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Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
The way some talk about 'The Market' comes off like they think of it the way others do the tides or bird migration. A natural phenomenon to be tracked and studied. Sometimes they're even the people consciously shaping it, like Andreessen in his "techno-optimist" manifesto claiming the things he lays out are inevitable and will go on indefinitely but that people like him also have to intervene to ensure that fact.
Yeah market fundamentalism is something I consider to be often a central fallacy of classics liberalism and similar market-based viewpoints. I do think the market, as a spontaneous form of collective intelligence, is a force of nature in some respect, but in other respects it is certainly fallible and manipulable.
 

sus

Moderator
Mineral evolution precedes biological evolution. Biology is a means by which mineral evolution advances itself.
 

sus

Moderator
Earth has thousands of mineral compounds found nowhere else in the Solar System. The reason is life. Life is a machine for synthesizing new kinds of minerals. The rocks were there first, and the rocks will be around after life fades out.
 

version

Well-known member

There's a section on a sculptor that's been by far the best thing in the book. Reminds me of Prynne talking about bullets and fish hooks in A Note on Metal. The magical properties of objects. @sus, @Murphy, think you two might like this, if you haven't already read it. Here's an excerpt:

The larger dramas of these lands are not, superficially, present. No tapestry of battle, or reference to king-myth; no heraldry, no nostalgia for 'Mysterious Britain.' Direct translations of cultural collision, the point of impact: the ballista bolt in a section of spine. Iron has grown into bone to breed a new creature. This is colonisation of the most intimate kind...​
The sculptor is at ease constructing an oven or beating out a ritual weapon. The incantations he chants are the natural sounds of these hill ridges. He prepares the feast, selects and kills, cures the meat, with the same precision that he used to forge the cauldron. Seasonal rhythms - death, sacrifice, inhumation, rebirth - are understood and coded into the machine.​
'To respect the vegetal powers'; the injunction from Rock-Drill is obeyed. The vorticism is implicit. It's not the vorticism of Gaudier-Brzeska and Epstein - but there is a kinship with the metallic coldness of Wyndham Lewis - the idea of wholeness: that the made objects fit into a universe created by a single generative force, or group of forces that remain in sympathy . . . architectonic wholeness . . . total invention . . . not small, valued isolated artefacts, but a sense that the sculptor has managed to realise one detail from a whole that goes to the horizon and beyond . . . stratified, inhabited, furnished with buildings, beasts, plants, stars, insects. The agent and the sofa come from a single city . . . the gigantic cosmic engineerings of Lewis's Human Age trilogy or the subterranean icebound galleries of H. P. Lovecraft . . . approached with a seriousness that continues to frighten the casual viewer greedy for sensation and eye-orgasms. All or nothing.​
 
You been looking into graham harman and the object oriented philosophy stuff? I found the abstraction a bit silly and difficult to engage with after a while so i didnt finish the book. But once you grasp the initial idea its a useful one. kind of deprioritising human free will and thinking about the power of technological lock in, thought systems, modes of production. the car, the whell, the bible, the printing press, the smart phone, the algorithms. i think 'objects having a will of their own' might be anthroporphompho otising a bit and making the same mistake twice though.... what do you mean by win? will inorganic processes kill or at least outlive us? almost certainly yes!
 
if i recall one of the main things was trying to distinguish between an object and an event and i dont know if i could get on board with the distinction... something about the stability of state across enough time or something
 
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