Unintended Consequences

sufi

lala
are they more prevalent these days than ever before, more even than intentional results?
are humans just no good at planning,
like we cant handle the exponential, possibilities elude us, things are only obvious in hindsight
or maybe the future is naturally contrarian?

on the other hand they are building a new capital city in kalimantan borneo
 

Murphy

cat malogen
One of the most significant has to be agriculture

What starts as conspicuous consumption for hunter-gatherer dogging meets at sites like Göbekli Tepe - bringing offerings and gifts of nature’s wild bounty, steeped in ritual and the liminal anti-structure of communitas, even its mad temple art - all concluded with wholesale domestication, architectural/civic advances eg Çatalhöyük and dna mutations in humans

DNA consequences are intriguing because they’re less discussed - a lightening of skin complexions over quite a short period that accelerated a shift to what we might identify ethnically today as ‘white’, forming part of a chain of genetic operations all originating directly from agriculture

All the obvious semi-institutional agricultural transitions can be reeled off - domestication, deposition, ceramics and a secondary products revolution eg dairy, maybe brewing by the Bronze Age but compare Cheddar Gorge’s more archaic Mesolithic bloke - black hair, very dark skin and blue eyes

Yes, blond hair is one of the earliest post-African migration mutations, ie much much older than pale skin complexions eg Aboriginal Australians share a blonde mutation with Europeans but it took agriculture from the Middle East (compounded by Pontic Steppe Beaker migrations) as ruptures followed possible Neolithic collapse due to disease

Summary, “white” people haven’t been around for very long and our existence is a direct result of Anatolian and early Aegean agricultural societies spreading north westwards (sorry @thirdform )
 

woops

is not like other people
Summary, “white” people haven’t been around for very long and our existence is a direct result of Anatolian and early Aegean agricultural societies spreading north westwards (sorry @thirdform )
i thought they were invented by a mad scientist
 

Murphy

cat malogen
Did the scientist intend such @woops ?

Humans haven’t learned to operate at scale with stability yet. Had a couple of paragraphs about curses and Martin’s New Yawlins anecdote re ex-hexes but deleted them copying and pasting the correct Gob-T reference. Curse as intention, curse gone askew/awry, curse reflected back 3-fold, curse as lost paragraphs
 

version

Well-known member
are they more prevalent these days than ever before, more even than intentional results?
are humans just no good at planning,
like we cant handle the exponential, possibilities elude us, things are only obvious in hindsight
or maybe the future is naturally contrarian?

on the other hand they are building a new capital city in kalimantan borneo

The more fronts we open up, the more opportunities for accidents and unexpected developments.

There are some who'd argue the world resists being rationalised.
 

Murphy

cat malogen
re-wilding breeding programs to ‘recreate’ wild aurochs unintentionally ending up as foodie freak steaks

”Yes, i’ll have the fillet of Auroch 2.0 ideally medium/rare” and there’ll be a wind pairing too, god forbid there’s no booze!

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woops

is not like other people
re-wilding breeding programs to ‘recreate’ wild aurochs unintentionally ending up as foodie freak steaks

”Yes, i’ll have the fillet of Auroch 2.0 ideally medium/rare” and there’ll be a wind pairing too, god forbid there’s no booze!

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I'm quite partial to a drop of château-sayaguèse, i say bring it on
 

version

Well-known member
A fair share of these issues seem to be a product of chronic short termism and cost cutting measures, e.g. my brother's told me some tree planting projects fail because people will just buy a load of the same species in bulk and plant them with no regard for whether they're suited to the habitat.
 

woops

is not like other people
A fair share of these issues seem to be a product of chronic short termism and cost cutting measures, e.g. my brother's told me some tree planting projects fail because people will just buy a load of the same species in bulk and plant them with no regard for whether they're suited to the habitat.
he sounds like he's calmed down a lot
 

wektor

Well-known member
we all know more and more each day. knowing more without gaining much in agency can mean mindbending fear
 
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