Consuming the Genocide

sufi

lala
How do you do it?

Do you seek out the pictures of crushed babies to confront the reality?
Or do you scrupulously avoid the radicalising extremes, do you seek balance?
 

luka

Well-known member
i do my best to avoid any images that might nestle in my unconscious and upset me for life. i already agree we should wipe israel off the map i dont need any convincing.
 

sufi

lala
i do my best to avoid any images that might nestle in my unconscious and upset me for life. i already agree we should wipe israel off the map i dont need any convincing.
Do you try to avoid propaganda that might challenge your convictions?
 

luka

Well-known member
you mean would i watch idf propaganda for instance? i wouldnt seek it out. i forgot my twitter password ages ago in any case.
 

sufi

lala
yeh, i wonder how we all put up with it all

how does your relationship to the genocide affect you do you feel guilt and shame, hatred, pity or what and how do you mitigate it/cope with it
 

shakahislop

Well-known member
I read the headlines and I try not to talk about it. Everyone wants to but there's nothing to say at all the only real reaction is horror and disgust you have to deal with it in your own time, it's too upsetting
 

Murphy

cat malogen
Vicarious trauma is real but you can’t look away when you’re living in a nation with both an extensive history facilitating genocide and mass arms exportation

We can’t ban the bullet, we can’t ban the bomb, protest achieves nothing therefore do a Luigi on the world’s military-industrial-complex?
 

sufi

lala
I read the headlines and I try not to talk about it. Everyone wants to but there's nothing to say at all the only real reaction is horror and disgust you have to deal with it in your own time, it's too upsetting
:cry: so what to do with those emotions?
 

yyaldrin

in je ogen waait de wind
i went to many demonstrations the past year, more than i've ever been. partly because it helped me to escape the gaslighting of the government and the media. i've often felt living in a sort of truman show movie in which everyone was instructed to just go on with their life or even worse, claim that what's happening is a good thing. so being there with people who felt and thought the same was a good experience. i normally don't like it when people push their activism on me but in this case i've done so myself with other people because i feel like opposing a genocide is the least you can do as a human being. living in germany where everyone pretends they are the masters of reconciling with their past and having learned something while actually doing the exact opposite of that makes everything very frustrating.
 

luka

Well-known member
Maybe if I did watch babies melting and so on I'd get angrier and do a political assassination or something. Maybe screening myself from the images and reports allows me to keep the whole thing in the background. I know yyyyaldrin watches the babies melting etc. Do you sufi?
 

yyaldrin

in je ogen waait de wind
i try not to watch the worst images to be honest, i can't even handle fictional horror movies, it's a riddle to me how people are able to watch that stuff. i've shut down my twitter account because i think it's bad for my mental health, the feeds are becoming too frantic, there's too many trolls, too many racists, too many fake bots, it's too fast too much stimulus. on the other hand, i believe it's the only place where you can get live, direct images from places that have been shut-off from the world, such as gaza is. it's the only medium that allows you to follow journalists that are there and broadcast what happens and leaving the platform thus feels like leaving those people alone. because i think one of the particular horrors they have to endure, is that they have been made invisible.
 

catalog

Well-known member
We have a friend who lives in Berlin and it sounds way more racist and fucked in the head than london
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
I don't pay attention to it at all in all honesty, but I noted with a sort of detached interest and visceral horror that although I did "care" about it happening in a quite abstract way when it started happening it was only when I watched a video of something awful like a mother crying over the corpse of her child that I actually really DID care and donated some money.

The people I know who really care about it are always sharing horrific videos so maybe it's the best way to ensure you do care--but caring also leaves you open to depression and trauma which I tend to avoid wherever I can.
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
When I read "5,000 dead in bombing" say, I don't really feel that much. If I SAW 5,000 bombed to death I'd feel something, alright. The scale actually depersonalizes it, the old Stalin (?) quote about a tragedy Vs a statistic. Reading about that girl getting beaten to death by her dad recently made me feel all the pity and horror and anger, which is correct but a comparatively small crime I suppose
 

version

Well-known member
I don't seek it out or avoid it, I just watch the stuff that comes my way when it does. I'm not on Twitter which, as yyaldrin says, is the only place you're really going to see that sort of thing on a regular basis.
 

shakahislop

Well-known member
:cry: so what to do with those emotions?
i dunno. one thing we've all got to figure out is how to deal with distant horror it's part of being on a computer now and we're on them all the time. i have particular windows where i drink in seriously what's happening and think about it and that sort of works for me, it is horrifying, i don't get stuck into the day to day talking posing which one is your team etc
 

Murphy

cat malogen
consumption is key for war and genocide

the nibble on a rocket attack here, a youth doing nothing blown apart from nowhere there (blurred, of course), a block of apartments collapsing with huge blast radius’s rippling out reel, linking dopamine rewards and bloodletting

standard practice to deliberately desensitise but not as consumption points on TikTok, where much younger audiences with developing minds are drawn to

Ukraine too, multiple pseudo tabloid channels running multiple Russian death upload clips (always with the same shit soundtrack too)

utter normalisation of slaughter

see how it eats at anyone, as it should, given war only ever happens in shitholes (deliberately used to highlight how toxic the immigration debate now is) and how the arms trade works
 
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