Uk Civil War: when and how bad?

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An interesting podcast, to say the least.
Betz argues that Britain's leaders and much of the population are in the thrall.of normalcy bias (aka NPC syndrome) and are too blinkered to see what is now inevitable, given the fault lines in British society. I read the runes decades ago, positioned accordingly, and have often shared my insights on here, to general acclaim from the likes of Mr Teabagged. Listen to this, what do you think?

 
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Wonder how long it'll be before there's a news story saying something like "Police to take no action following elderly racist being beaten to death after pointlessly antagonising Asian youths."
 
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I think it's more likely to be a revolution than a race war, although there will be a great deal of inter-ethnic conflict should law and order collapse as every ethnic gang will take the opportunity to bring whatever beef they have with their traditional foes to a head...so I tihnk it will be pretty confusing and chaotic.
 
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There are a lot of parallels between the failed Omani rebels and the supposed causes that are so prevelant in these arguments- elitist governments flagrantly ruling over the proposed consensus of the country and with other interests at heart

Timeline wise the fall of the Omani Empire was a lot further back but they're still a large-scale colonial power whose ruling parties have ended up in thrall to another Empire's interests

Also a lot of a pink Range Rovers on the school-run these days

The main problem with England is that you all want to tie it to this conceptual race war but it's actually a class one. If you want to change the gaff you can't be fighting against yourself
 
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Turns out HMG was right! said:
An interesting podcast, to say the least.
Betz argues that Britain's leaders and much of the population are in the thrall.of normalcy bias (aka NPC syndrome) and are too blinkered to see what is now inevitable, given the fault lines in British society. I read the runes decades ago, positioned accordingly, and have often shared my insights on here, to general acclaim from the likes of Mr Teabagged. Listen to this, what do you think?

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This is a very interesting analysis; most of the others are in denial and won't be able to get very far through this due to cognitive dissonance, but they should realise that Starmer at least is well aware that things could quickly tumble in this direction and that's exactly why he (perhaps rightly in the circumstances) came down like a tonne of bricks on the Southport protests. He will know that this problem has not gone away, and I think he's commencing a two-pronged strategy: firstly, actually do something about immigration, encroaching on Reform territory and, secondly, coming down even harder on inter-tribal dissent.
 
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There are a lot of parallels between the failed Omani rebels and the supposed causes that are so prevelant in these arguments- elitist governments flagrantly ruling over the proposed consensus of the country and with other interests at heart

Timeline wise the fall of the Omani Empire was a lot further back but they're still a large-scale colonial power whose ruling parties have ended up in thrall to another Empire's interests

Also a lot of a pink Range Rovers on the school-run these days

The main problem with England is that you all want to tie it to this conceptual race war but it's actually a class one. If you want to change the gaff you can't be fighting against yourself
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I said it would be a revolution rather than a race war, and in fact so does the academic in the podcast, although he calls it a civil war.
 
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I said it would be a revolution rather than a race war, and in fact so does the academic in the podcast, although he calls it a civil war.
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In this thread yes, but in terms of the wider idea and discussion it's quite apparent that the narrative is being pushed by the right leaning anti-immigration wing. You wouldn't be talking about immigration and Reform if that wasn't the jist of the general conversation. I've had loads of weird contractors over the last years chat race war, I think based of assumption because I'm white, bald and "in construction" I am sympathetic to the cause

There are a lot more people against this concept than there are for it, despite what the Internet confirmation bias might suggest, if it was going to happen then the Southport situation would have provoked it sufficiently. God knows the algorithm was trying to push it that way

As for your Canadian friend on the podcast he's another white elite podcaster preaching away to the converted, to my eyes. I am not going to listen to this tosser in my day to day life and nor would most

Class war revolution is a lovely concept though, I'm all for it

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What's funny about the whole scenario is that it's the Tory establishment inflamed the scenario to combat the infighting amid the separate wings of the party and ended up destroying itself and probably ended up installing a Labour reign for the next couple of elections (though I doubt it'll be Starmer) while the two wings of the historic Conservative cause split the vote
 
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wg- said:
In this thread yes, but in terms of the wider idea and discussion it's quite apparent that the narrative is being pushed by the right leaning anti-immigration wing. You wouldn't be talking about immigration and Reform if that wasn't the jist of the general conversation. I've had loads of weird contractors over the last years chat race war, I think based of assumption because I'm white, bald and "in construction" I am sympathetic to the cause

There are a lot more people against this concept than there are for it, despite what the Internet confirmation bias might suggest, if it was going to happen then the Southport situation would have provoked it sufficiently. God knows the algorithm was trying to push it that way

As for your Canadian friend on the podcast he's another white elite podcaster preaching away to the converted, to my eyes. I am not going to listen to this tosser in my day to day life and nor would most

Class war revolution is a lovely concept though, I'm all for it

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What's funny about the whole scenario is that it's the Tory establishment inflamed the scenario to combat the infighting amid the separate wings of the party and ended up destroying itself and probably ended up installing a Labour reign for the next couple of elections (though I doubt it'll be Starmer) while the two wings of the historic Conservative cause split the vote
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I think the race of immigrants is almost incidental, as there are plenty of immigrants who are also against further mass immigration; the problem is the country is having trouble cohering at this point precisely because of multiculturalism's myriad folkways. Almost 90% of Labour voters want the same thing as the majority of RW voters on this score, but it's the establishment's persistent refusal to take the necessary steps despite promising over and over again that they would. If Labour hadn't promised a clampdown and voters hadn't thought 'well the Tories didn't do it, so maybe these guys will', Labour wouldn't have won, even with the split. Labour has let down the electorate and you're the first person I've heard saying that they'll win the next election.

Funny how you say that you're above all this race war malarkey (as well one should be) while also dismissing the academic because he looks wrong, is fat and white. If there should be such a war I don't know how one could convincingly opt out given that one is, unlike Hamas, wearing military insignia without wearing it. You won't choose the race war (beyond refusing to share a bunker with white construction workers and academics) but the race war will choose you.
 
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