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I've seen it suggested he basically thought it was all bollocks so ended up doing some sort of parody of theory and just having fun with it. He's on record saying theory's just fiction and that nobody needed French theory.
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I've seen it suggested he basically thought it was all bollocks so ended up doing some sort of parody of theory and just having fun with it. He's on record saying theory's just fiction and that nobody needed French theory.
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He also said this sort of thing, that the world pushes back on our attempts to work it out.
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Also, back in the 70s he was criticising the whole theory-caught-in-a-loop thing,
"Theoretical production, like material production," Baudrillard wrote, "loses its determinacy and begins to turn around itself, slipping en abyme towards a reality that cannot be found. This is where we are today: indeterminacy, the era of floating theories, as much as floating money . . . "
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Disney, The Serpent Swallows its Own Tail?
The other day whilst watching the trailer for Ralph Breaks the Internet: Wreck-It Ralph 2 I was struck by the relentless barrage of references and in-jokes, the entire thing seemed to be one continuous sequence of references to other properties owned by Disney and various other companies...
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☝🏻right. imo we can point directly at the hipster era as a marker for the end of the 20th c's telescopic evolutionary phases. Culture now just keeps folding in upon itself. Growing in density, as opposed to moving forward as it once did. If that isn't an end of history I don't know what is. The Mayans were right, etc
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Yep. Hard to imagine anything like the analog to digital revolution in music ever happening again. Intensely empty feeling thinking about all of that right now with everything else going on in the world. But things will change, they always do. I can totally picture a back to basics something or other
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Like diy gear made by people who've fucked the Internet off forever and just read loads of old books n shit. It won't be new, but it will be dope. They just need to shake the shackles of over self awareness off first so there's no over preoccupance for the external gaze as most of us online folk are trapped in rn. Might take a gen or two. Maybe anyway. Who knows
you seem depressed and demoralised. this kind of fatalism will eat you out from the inside. Not that I can or am capable of investing time in helping you, , I have my own mental health related shit to deal with (sadly.) But you probably need to reassess your priorities and get into new things and abandon the big philosophical questions if you are using them to justify your mental state at any one point. no, not healthy at all.
barty's excitement might have been artificially inflated to a degree but it was clearly there and people will clearly be excited about things, no matter if you find them vapid. I think a lot of 2010s music isn't all that but it doesn't really bother me, because I don't conduct my battles on the terrain of culture. I often think the dislike towards autechre's more abstract works comes from these sort of cultural critiques which I just find kind of childish as time passes. Tilting at windmills, quixotic. I haven't heard many compelling criticisms about their craft as such.
yeah but the thing is you don't want to mistake your priorities shifting with contemporary pop culture. I'm probably never going to have an omnivorous interest in new music simply because I have an attuned ear and I'm not a teenager. I know I use ilx as a punching bag but I just don't understand how people in their 40s can be into Taylor Swift. Even if she is somehow experimental or whatever.
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ok, but that's exactly the point - it's a self-referential claim made within marxisms own theoretical framework. So marxism, like any other system, already runs on it's own binary code exploitation/emancipation, bourgeois/proletariat, oppressor /oppressed or something like that (it also ties in with the very importnat idea of his that to observe is to make a distinction) and that's how, from within the confines of it's own operational closure, it observes it's environment (again "environment" being the sum total of all the other systems, not some sort of raw, ground zero reality).
so there is no sense is which marxisms, or any other system, can claim to be an objective meta-system that understands all the other systems outside it's own code.
what should also be obvious is that there is no hirearchy of systems, each system just works to maintain it's own integrity blindly running it's own self-referential code. i suppose it's also important to mention the detail that the purpose of this binary distinction as the base operation of every and any system, is to reduce the compelixty and messiness and noise of their enviorment, otherwise there wouldn't be any kind of functioning state of things at all.
also, in no sense systems are seperate bubbles floating in vacuum, they are structurally coupled, they irritate each othe and they resonate with each other. the biggest disasters usually come when this structural coupling breaks down.
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you keep returning to this vertical, hierarchical, chain of being type of view, which i think is just a fallacy as far as furthering an understanding of modern society is concerned.
that is also what i mean mean by "foundatinal claim" - the idea that you can prioratize one of these self-referential systems and it's observations of environment above others; because they are all equal on their own terms and in their own self-referential, operatinally closed context. they just function or they don't
it's really Indra's net rather than Leibnize's monadism, although it may not be the perfect analogy, but it does capture the general principle