existential crisis, feeling like I'm in a creative prison

shakahislop

Well-known member
I wouldn't worry about Shaka Hislop's infatuation with Sabrina Carpenter. thing is he lost his virginity to hallucinogens floral fractal neuro sponges in 2004 or whenever in Somerset...
ahahahhahahaha it was in fact in a field in 2003. it was absolutely terrifying for hour after hour
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Dissensus did represent something once upon a time, musically, but it all got very blurred in recent years.

I'm a fan of a lot of MOJO Magazine music myself but it felt like this place was more itself when it was all juke, funky, drill etc.

We've not had anything to batten onto for a while
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
The first thing it told me to do is to cut a vital connection.
I've thought of several ways to do that, but I don't think it would help.
Maybe connection in the sense of internet chatter.

I guess you can approach art in two ways (crudely speaking) 1. Survey the market and create for it 2. Ignore everything and please yourself.

Depends if you want to be successful or not really. Unfortunately either approach these days you're going to struggle to stand out. I suppose ignoring the internet is impossible for anyone who wants anyone to actually HEAR their music.
 

0bleak

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>Do nothing for as long as possible

Yeah, I think a lot of those tips are more helpful depending on what you're wanting to do or where you are in the process, but i'm having trouble even getting the initial timbres and rhythms sorted without negative thoughts about them creeping into my mind.
 

0bleak

Well-known member
Maybe connection in the sense of internet chatter.

I guess you can approach art in two ways (crudely speaking) 1. Survey the market and create for it 2. Ignore everything and please yourself.

Depends if you want to be successful or not really. Unfortunately either approach these days you're going to struggle to stand out. I suppose ignoring the internet is impossible for anyone who wants anyone to actually HEAR their music.

I'm too old to have any illusions as to making a splash at my age, but I also don't want necessarily also sound old.
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
I always felt most inspired to make music when I was really into something that was happening now. Sounds obvious I guess but that feeling of wanting to be involved in something and aspiring to even have djs play it etc. when that disappeared for me my interest in making music evaporated too cos I just felt like what's the point.
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
I'm too old to have any illusions as to making a splash at my age, but I also don't want necessarily also sound old.
Hmm

I think sounding old isn't looked down upon anymore, look at all that pastiche jungle that people like now

Plus how to sound new?

Who are you making music for? Yourself? Your friends? (Hopefully not for dissensus.)

I dunno I can't advise on this I know exactly how you feel and I didn't get over it.

Sometimes think the best thing to do would have been get trained in music theory and just make something completely different.
 

okzharp

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another trick is to export stems and put them into a new project with a completely different bpm. Get off the grid, you listen differently.
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
this is why wu tang forever is not very good
I was going to say on that wu tang thread the other day

A lot of the beats on liquid swords are like a hairs breadth away from being embarrassingly inept, but they're genius - and I think about that viral clip of rza making a terrible beat and think maybe he just needed a few more hours and some angel dust
 

0bleak

Well-known member
Maybe it will help if I explain where I am.
ok, so I currently have made several iterations of a turkish rhythm, but it's at a slow 80 bpm.
I can't really change too much about the speed without it losing some of its character.
OTOH, I don't just want to produce a "oh, isn't that nice and pleasant" head-nodder so I'm thinking about injecting some additional double-time rhythms into it, but where do I go? Something from old drum machine sounds? Or something with more interesting (in my opinion) timbres that are also apparently dated, I guess?
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Don't worry about being dated

All these tunes from 1989/1992/1998 that we love sound dated but more importantly they bang

The object should be make something that you would play in your set or would like to dance to in another person's set or whatever

NOT to be cutting edge (although that is nice when it happens)
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
I would send thirdform the Turkish thing and he can give you the most blunt no bullshit notes on what to improve and what to jettison

Maybe that should be a job in music

Probably most producers do this anyway. The problem is people don't want to hurt your feelings so they'll say ah yeah this is great whatever it is.
 
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