so it's antony and the jonsons then
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I must admit, I was quite impressed.... loved the fact that that twelve-year old little fellow that the NME allow to edit it now said that Anthony and the Jonsons were both more weird AND more Radio 2 than anything that would get in that rag... further evidence that the NME worldview is trad meat and potatoes pub (or student union) rock-orientated, as if we didn't know...
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Are we sure he's not just Alison Moyet in disguise?
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Wild isn't it! Congrats , Antony.
i wanted the magic numbers to win because they seem like nice, jolly, overweight people and like they'd spend £20,000 wisely, on gourmet dining for instance. i actually put money on mia to win and lost for the 1st time in 6 years. of course, it's a shitty record, but i thought it might win 1) as a result of the general hegemonic pressure to think she's any good 2) to boost her APPALLING record sales (3,000 albums to date in the uk, folks?). the antony record is quite revolting.
Ness Rowlah
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I said years ago that Coldplay is tosh, and I put Antony in the same category.
He might be weird, he might be a trannie, he might be able to sing the vibrato(r) - but the music ain't no good. I hate that "feelie" operatic stuff ... (I have the same thing with Janis Joplin - just because someone can scream their lungs out doesn't make them good. Overrated rubbish).
I saw a documentary on the late great jazz singer Monica Zetterlund recently. She explained how she restricted herself (not using vibrato and other "tricks") and made everything simple (and mostly in one take) when doing her "Waltz for Debby" [recommended] album with Bill Evans in the early 60s.
A lot of these young torch singers could learn from Zetterlund's approach.
Giving a price to someone just because they are a bit different is not right is it?
Antony IS the PC choice.
He might be weird, he might be a trannie, he might be able to sing the vibrato(r) - but the music ain't no good. I hate that "feelie" operatic stuff ... (I have the same thing with Janis Joplin - just because someone can scream their lungs out doesn't make them good. Overrated rubbish).
I saw a documentary on the late great jazz singer Monica Zetterlund recently. She explained how she restricted herself (not using vibrato and other "tricks") and made everything simple (and mostly in one take) when doing her "Waltz for Debby" [recommended] album with Bill Evans in the early 60s.
A lot of these young torch singers could learn from Zetterlund's approach.
Giving a price to someone just because they are a bit different is not right is it?
Antony IS the PC choice.
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gumdrops said:
MIA walked out in disgust apparently. (cue Dissensus cheers
)http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/music/news/article310873.ece
why should i? i thought she was pushing her 'shanty-house cred' a bit too forcefully in that interview.
i liked her speech when she said britain is a good place to live if someone like her can still get nominated, especially in light of whats happening these days. that was good.
i liked her speech when she said britain is a good place to live if someone like her can still get nominated, especially in light of whats happening these days. that was good.
Rambler said:MIA walked out in disgust apparently. (cue Dissensus cheers
http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/music/news/article310873.ece
MIA didn't win coz she's not 4REAL. she's been outed as a middle class kid of colour not some recent refugee scarred from a war. But also her music is pretty ordinary after the initial 'Bliss Rush': it's just a Pommy version of Missy Elliot with a faux 'politique' edge, along the same lines of the Sex Pistols etc..etc..
Rambler said:
Yes. Which isn't saying much about either, but I think ANTONY is turning into like ALISON MOYET in some bizarre post-Michael-Jackson pop-trasmutation. ANTONY's voice is a one trick pony, it's original and compelling, but it's a good trick. I'm already laying bets for a Jimmy Sommerville duet, but in a perfect world it would be Willie Nelson...
ANTONY is G.A.Y and 4REAL. Any proudly OUT GAY man is pretty much 4REAL and gets the red carpet treatment critically (and to an extent commercially) in todays' cultural climate no matter the quality of work. I mean Elton John is treated as frucking deity these days more because of his gay politique rather the the fact he hasn't made a "reasonable" album since 'Goodbye Yellow Brick Road'.
Since all post-modern 'art' is ultimately 'representational' it's a become a new 'artistic' dogma, and hence the reason why art now is so shit and instantaneous.
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Buick6 said:
well he's brilliant value for money and a real nutter which is why he's well loved as much as for his music.
i think antony and the jonsons are judged on their musical merits really.
it's quite an original sound in comparison to the rockers but less original compared to the day glo mashup kids (go team and m.i.a)
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Rambler said:MIA walked out in disgust apparently. (cue Dissensus cheers
http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/music/news/article310873.ece
well i thought i couldn't be anymore chuffed about Anthony (even though i find his vocal mannerisms a tad grating) winning it instead of a certain young lady, but that story of her stomping out in a fit of pique is the icing on the cake!
and then to hear the record's only shifted 3 thousand! i guess if your fanbase is mostly bloggerati then they'll all have been downloading it gratis
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Buick6 said:
goodbye yellow brick road isn't resonable. it's an absolutely terrific record. also, elton is far from deified in the uk. the reason it's canonical is because it's bloody good. he looks like a big, flamboyant alan bennet, has the piss taken out of him mercilessly by the media and still manages to be pretty well loved. i think this is down to him being a resonable bloke with a fair grip on reality and an ability to laugh at himself a bit, not because he's queer and people think they have to like him.
re mia: she's sold more in the states - about 57,000, i think.
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M.I.A. winning would have unlocked the 1st seal on the gates of Hell.