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thought i was the only one here who thought the same...
Poisonous Dart
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Not really
No...it just means that Wayne has become a well rounded ARTIST and not just a rapper (anyone can be a rapper, few are artists or emcees). It's not that the Dark Side has won...instead I see it as the Dark Side LOST. As for it being nerdy...well, shit. Most great hip hop was made by cats with some nerdy tendancies (UGK included). Don't worry, though...I still have yet to BUY any Lil' Wayne albums so you all are safe to keep on liking him and sleeping on the shit I like and BUY. One.
No...it just means that Wayne has become a well rounded ARTIST and not just a rapper (anyone can be a rapper, few are artists or emcees). It's not that the Dark Side has won...instead I see it as the Dark Side LOST. As for it being nerdy...well, shit. Most great hip hop was made by cats with some nerdy tendancies (UGK included). Don't worry, though...I still have yet to BUY any Lil' Wayne albums so you all are safe to keep on liking him and sleeping on the shit I like and BUY. One.
well, if you start liking young jeezy, then hip hop has definitely lost. i read message boards now and see people that previously opposed jeezy on grounds that werent just about his obvious inability to construct a decent verse together and its like after having jeezy or young joc or whoever hammered to death on the radio, they finally end up liking him. which might be a case of someone simply growing to like an artist, after initially being resistant, but it just seems like everyone feels they simply have to fall in line with whats hot or theyre being narrow minded, or stuck in the past, or simply a hater. i think hip hop needs more 'haters' (or just people being vocal about what they dont like and why) in 2006.
I don't really know if this is the case. There is a difference between being an enthusiast of this new breed of hip hop than just liking it to stay on top of what's hot. The people who like this genre like it because it sounds good to them, and I don't think it has anything to do with some idea that they don't have an empirical knowledge of hip hop.
On the other hand, I think that it is important to make sure you aren't stuck in the past, because it absolutely can make you narrow minded, but at the same time, this shouldn't inform what sounds good to your ears and what doesn't.
New music is exciting, but good music is still good music. That's the reason that the older hip hop still sounds good to me, but doesn't excite me enough to use my time to find out what's currently going on in that style. I'm more excited about the movements in the South, and these days, in Bay Area Rap, and so I use my time to listen to that.
Poisonous Dart
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New Jay-Z!
Jay-Z diss track to Jim Jones on the "We Fly High (Balllin') beat (which is hot garbage, by the way). Here it is:
Jay-Z- Brooklyn (Jim Jones diss)
http://xxlmag.com/online/?p=6229
I also have a better, DJless version of Nas & Jay-Z collabo "Black Republican/Militant" as well. Here IT is:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/bxm2br
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Jay-Z diss track to Jim Jones on the "We Fly High (Balllin') beat (which is hot garbage, by the way). Here it is:
Jay-Z- Brooklyn (Jim Jones diss)
http://xxlmag.com/online/?p=6229
I also have a better, DJless version of Nas & Jay-Z collabo "Black Republican/Militant" as well. Here IT is:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/bxm2br
One.
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sickboy, all im saying is from artists to fans, it seems everyone is almost feeling guilty for not buying into the mainstream stuff. (eg - today i heard the new frank n dank album and some of the songs were just like lame, utterly futile attempts to sound like big budget, big balling rappers; i also heard some new underground rapper = 9th wonder album and the rapper was pathetically dire - like a poor-poor-poor mans version of dipset and jay-z).
heard the new jay-z album. lots of laurel-resting business. lots of complacency, and lots of 'im old' whinging. bit of a shame when you listen to the sense of purpose jayz used to rhyme with.
new clipse album is pretty great, they still sound vicious, but on first listen, this isnt quite as good as lord willin. lyrically its astonishing though, i havent heard anyone go at it this hard for a while. the beats arent always as amazing as clipse are, and its not as amazing as the hype suggested but then, how could it be? still one of the albums of the year though.
heard the new jay-z album. lots of laurel-resting business. lots of complacency, and lots of 'im old' whinging. bit of a shame when you listen to the sense of purpose jayz used to rhyme with.
new clipse album is pretty great, they still sound vicious, but on first listen, this isnt quite as good as lord willin. lyrically its astonishing though, i havent heard anyone go at it this hard for a while. the beats arent always as amazing as clipse are, and its not as amazing as the hype suggested but then, how could it be? still one of the albums of the year though.
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told you!
http://www.sendspace.com/file/tcrs64
download, if anyone wants it...
i think the We Fly Beat is pretty lame, too, "Reppin' Time", however is hot...
mistersloane
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Jay Z is finished, the shine has gone, no-one cares anymore, what a fucking idiot.
for too long though backpackers have arbitrarily denied the quality of commercial artists because of factionalism, and i think its positive for that to change. however, if it is, as you suggest, an arbitrary shift, a further 'trend' as opposed to a genuine re-consideration, then thats no good at all.
i used to be an ardent backpacker and would dismiss anything even bordering on a shiny suit but then i saw the ridiculousness of those ways. so often you hear "all they chat about is bitches cash guns etc" but SO many underground mcs cant go anywhere beyond chatting about how theyre the illest in a cypher or whatever, filling out lame verses with lame similes. there are exciting things going on in both worlds but pointless partisan tendencies are just that... pointless (other than to fulfill personal issues about feeling a part of something, tribalism essentially, completely detached from any debate as to artistic merit)
Despite whether or not it is the case that Jay-Z is old news now, I think a reply track to all this Jim Jones beef nonsense was not at all necessary.
I think the impact would've been much harder if Jay just simply chose not to reply. That he is making response diss tracks to a rapper who many believe doesn't even register on Jay-Z's level only makes Jay look weaker I think. Why does he feel he needs to defend himself if Jim Jones isn't a threat?
If he was the don everyone still makes him out to be, he should've just dusted Jones off his shoulder.
Poisonous Dart
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In reality...
With an album coming out soon, he smart thing to do would be to RESPOND to Jim Jones to give him free press/publicity or buzz on the internet or on the street. Cam didn't go at Jay until "Killa Season" was about to drop. If Jay responds and goes 2x Platinum while Jim Jones sells 200,000-250,000 units then Jay, in effect won...even if his disses are lazy. It's a Catch 22 for Jay...and the streets are watching. LOL. One.
With an album coming out soon, he smart thing to do would be to RESPOND to Jim Jones to give him free press/publicity or buzz on the internet or on the street. Cam didn't go at Jay until "Killa Season" was about to drop. If Jay responds and goes 2x Platinum while Jim Jones sells 200,000-250,000 units then Jay, in effect won...even if his disses are lazy. It's a Catch 22 for Jay...and the streets are watching. LOL. One.
Poisonous Dart
Lone Swordsman
That's the thing...
It doesn't matter. In 1999, indie labels like Rawkus, Fondle 'Em, Beyond Real, Solesides/Quannum, Hydra, Brick, Asphodel, Stones Throw, Blackberry, etc. were all still going strong and releasing classic underground hip hop...underground hip hop heads/backpackers wouldn't have been listening then. One.
It doesn't matter. In 1999, indie labels like Rawkus, Fondle 'Em, Beyond Real, Solesides/Quannum, Hydra, Brick, Asphodel, Stones Throw, Blackberry, etc. were all still going strong and releasing classic underground hip hop...underground hip hop heads/backpackers wouldn't have been listening then. One.
happy days! i remember the day i picked up soundbombing
for me, that changed everything
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Point taken.
Too bad Wiley's album is probably going to come out a full year after all the buzz he created over beefing everybody.
*sigh*
Poisonous Dart
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Yeah, but...
I think Wiley beefs with people out of boredom and to generate some excitement for himself and the scene...it's getting repetative but eventually they'll be a new generation of top notch Gime emcees and they'll be MORE than glad to clash him...it make some take time, though. One.
I think Wiley beefs with people out of boredom and to generate some excitement for himself and the scene...it's getting repetative but eventually they'll be a new generation of top notch Gime emcees and they'll be MORE than glad to clash him...it make some take time, though. One.
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