Bit off-topic but there is a line on this LP where they say something like 'your favourite's rapper who went conscious and tried to tell you how to live'. Who are they on about?
I really like this album. One MC sounds a bit like Masta Ace (in later years) and the other sounds a bit like High Priest (i think its HP, definitely one from APC) from Anti-Pop Consortium - seriously!
that's not off-topic! i'd have to listen to APC (been a long long time) to know if i agree with your point, but i'd be interested in comparing
i guess in the end, the self-righteous indignation that initally motivated me to start this thread is a knee-jerk reaction to the overly literal way just about everyone--from people who hate the clipse to people who fanatically adore them--in the print media has interpreted them. (the ones 've read, of course)
i am someone who responds to beats/production first, and lyrics second, especially when it comes to hip-hop, r&b, pop, and electronic genres. when i loved
Hell Hath sonically so much on the very first listen, it was such a pleasant surprise to actually find their lyrics literate without being pretentious or clunky--as gumdrops says, they're dense, with allusions to so many unexpected sources and at the same time so many really relevant cultural references and of-the-moment slang and wordplay. it's hard for me to imagine anyone could put it in the same category as 50 Cent lyrically.
it's also so rare for me to feel overwhelmed by my own enjoyment of a record anymore, that it doesn't matter how many people have talked about them or the issues they've raised, i'm gonna want to talk about it, and defend clipse from misinterpretors like a teenager does their idols. it hits on so many issues i've been engrossed by or exposed to or bogged down in my whole life that it feels probably more relevant that it is in general. it's been so long since i've cared about much of
anything that my enthusiasm is probably blinding me to flaws the album has. can literally only think of 3 glaring ones, but i bet i'll calm down after a while and see more...