Woebot
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Second hand dvd's on Amazon, tons of stuff that comes to about £3 incl. postage. Might as well get a physical copy if it's cheaper or similar in price to a download.
think you've nailed it.
Second hand dvd's on Amazon, tons of stuff that comes to about £3 incl. postage. Might as well get a physical copy if it's cheaper or similar in price to a download.
not the torrenting as much as the pirated content, arguably. torrenting is quite egalitarian
Second hand dvd's on Amazon, tons of stuff that comes to about £3 incl. postage. Might as well get a physical copy if it's cheaper or similar in price to a download.
Legal, but surely no more ethical in that the original creators get nothing, other than perhaps satisfying some abstract moral desire to 'pay' for something? The end result is the same as pirating - perhaps worse as the second hand buyer is in fact willing to pay something, where the pirate is not, so it is genuine 'lost' revenue.
See also, libraries and the paltry fees they pay.
interesting thought.
though i suppose i'm less cynical about what you describe as "the moral desire to pay for something" - using your argument secondhand music shops wouldn't ever have existed which would would both have weakened music (second only to the dole in propping up the culture) and deprive lots of people of jobs (often but not quite the same thing)
and also where would that place reissues?
i'm no socialist though - and to my (obviously decadent, spiritually bankrupt and corrupt) mind - often money=energy.
Who actually gets paid if you buy a new DVD though?
Genuine question, because I don't know. I'd imagine most of the crew working on a film don't get paid because they would have earned wages whilst doing it. Or the minor "extra" actors for that matter.
I'd guess the director and producer and the major actors get paid something, but presumably they have been handsomely rewarded for their efforts already anyway?
I don't think a "flat" ethical framework is useful for illegally downloading stuff. If people want to get free copies of things produced by millionaires that is fine by me, but I'd baulk at people ripping off stuff produced by struggling artists.
AmazonAutorip service* lets you stream or download the MP3 version for free, of any music you've bought from Amazon at any time since 1999.
You can potentially recover more than a decade of forgotten music - from CDs you've lost, damaged or thrown away, and MP3s you downloaded that have since been wiped from your electronic devices.
There is a secondary aspect to (1) which I think Matt was getting at, which is to support a wider culture of music makers / shops / venues etc.
Discogs scalpers buy up new records to resell them for high sums on the secondary market. We interviewed sellers, labels, and shop owners to see who’s to blame.
http://www.electronicbeats.net/en/features/who-really-benefits-from-discogs-scalping/
http://www.dissensus.com/group.php?groupid=3 ?whatever happened to the shared dropbox folder that everyone was plonking music into for a bit? Got some great Vinyl rips that I've since long lost.