Cor, that blrrrecords site is absolutely extraordinary. " a leather patch with a geometric symbol that will scare the wits out of asian pensioners if you wear it on the streets of Southall or Brick Lane." Haha. Briliantly written. I guess by someone whose cheque was cashed but the order never fulfilled or something.
Great thread, this. To pitch in first with some recommendations: Marc Almond did a great track with Current 93 on their Black Ships Ate The Sky album. It's incredible. I implore you to listen to it:
Current 93 were never much to my taste but the album mentioned above really changed my head around, although I prefer the guest vocalists to David Tibet's vocals. They've just released another album, which I didn't enjoy much though.
Regarding the moral issue, at one point recently I was researching some of the more hardcore power electronics/industrial type artists to see if there were any dodgy political connections to see if any areas I should avoid writing about/covering. It's easy to find horrible stuff, unsurprisingly- Sleep Chamber? Urghhh, sickening. But you always seem to find the same justification, "it's posing questions and issues, shaking you out of your received opinions, it's not supporting killing jews". A kind of meta-justification really, turning the issue of what it means back on the listener. Problem is, some artists who I think are pretty much OK – including Whitehouse –*use very similar justifications. With Whitehouse, I really do think the bombard of sexual/power imagery with them is intended to shake you out of socialised behaviours.
So it's tricky. (I should point out I haven't explored Whitehouse thoroughly)
The idea of 'industrial' seems an elegantly flexible one to me. Sure, industries were closing down, but the idea seems more about how rigid patterns of behaviour, social hierarchies and, of course, technology has affected human behaviour. It's obvious that Nazism would be an issue broached in this context – and justifiably so. So you don't need to be banging bits of metal or anything. Industrial is an idea as much as a practice, I guess. That said, Current 93 do seem more some neo/gothic folk sort of thing, which seems a whole different kettle of weird fish.
I like the way TG have overturned expectations by being soft, fluid and musically approachable since they've come back. That was the last thing people would have expected. Nicely done.
Weren't Coil an influence on Autechre? Dunno where I heard that...
Anyway, hope this thread carries on.