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Woebot
12-07-2005, 06:38 PM
I'm no Yoda-toting skate-kid but when I went to see Star Wars aged 6 with my best friend Ben Ovington (maybe he'll google himself!) it made a pretty enormous (ginormous ;)) impression.

George Lucas, however, I've recently decided must be some kind of total bufoon.

What is the iconic, epic movie called these days? "Star Wars" perhaps?

No it's called:

"Star Wars Episode 4: A New Hope."

Bizarre.

francesco
12-07-2005, 09:27 PM
Lucas, really a great director with a perfect curriculum from THX1138, American Graffiti and Star Wars.
Then created Industrial Light And Magic which created modern cinema but forget all about what a film is (and he never shot another one for 20 years). But strangely in the last one, The Revenge of the Sith, on the second part, there are hint of grand cinema. Only brief moments but great. While all the others Star Wars movies (ok, Empire Strikes Back has his moments...) only shite.

The old Star Wars had not only the name retouched but also has been digitally retouched in many parts to correct "errors" and look more modern. Not that I have ever been a Star Wars fans.... it was a nice film, now is mostruously overrated by geeky fans, like Star Trek.

Me, i love 2001 and Space 1999.

rewch
13-07-2005, 12:38 PM
quite agree about the inherent rubbishnesss of most of the star wars franchise... but the first film (i.e. no. 4) was always subtitled episode 4: a new hope... didn't make sense for a long time until lucas came out with the rest... there are strange inconsistencies between the first & the rest... i.e. alec guinness calls darth vader 'darth' as if it his first name which then metamorphosises into a dark-side title... darth sidious... darth tyrannus &c. don't know whether he meant the first one to be a stand alone which he then realised could be a sestology [sic]... the most recent one continued this with a lot of loose ends being tied up in a very unsubtle way like darth vader losing his lightsaber so obi wan could pick it up & then give it to luke... why did it take the empire 20 years to build the first death star & then a considerably shorter time to build the second &c. &c.

sorry got a bit carried away there... but star wars was a seminal influence on pretty much anyone over the age of 25... lucas shouldn't have allowed himself to direct any of the others (though i don't think he did return of the jedi which is pap)

10:02am
13-07-2005, 06:05 PM
but the first film (i.e. no. 4) was always subtitled episode 4: a new hope... didn't make sense for a long time until lucas came out with the rest...

Not true actually. The 'Episode IV' subtitle was added, when the film was re-released. Sometime in the early 80s I believe?

rewch
14-07-2005, 10:58 AM
hmmm... apparently 1981 with the release of the film on vhs... i have an apparently false memory then of wondering about it at the time...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_Episode_IV:_A_New_Hope

i stand corrected... george 'revisionist' lucas...