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Keith P
26-01-2005, 08:39 AM
Joe Nice?
know you must be on here

just a bit of a roll call

dialectic_bricks
26-01-2005, 08:51 AM
Representing the Blue Ride Mountains of Virginia here.

Keith P
26-01-2005, 08:58 AM
that's really surprising
would most of the people who are stateside here consider themselves grime and dubstep fans?
Are alot of you guys dj's, promoters etc.?

dialectic_bricks
26-01-2005, 09:08 AM
I DJ'd for years when I lived in bigger cities in the South but I returned to the mountain where I grew up five or six years ago. Still haven't managed to shake the record collector/music obssesive bug though.
I enjoy all the grime stuff I've been able to hear via internet radio and white labels from UK merchants like Independance,et al. Dubstep I don't enjoy as much. For whatever reason it puts me in mind of alot of the No U-Turn/Tech-Step records that I burned out on in the late nineties.

Keith P
26-01-2005, 09:18 AM
I buy from independance and RD myself.

More of a full on grime fan but I do enjoy some of the music thrown into the "fwd" category. Wizzbit type tunes and I'm feeling Distinction's tunes as well. Alot of the loefah, kode 9, etc. stuff doesn't interest me as much. Too"dubby" and not enough energy for my taste. Guess we're on the same page in regards to that.

machine hugger
26-01-2005, 09:37 AM
Howdy.

Pearsall
26-01-2005, 10:31 AM
I live in New York. I buy the occassional bit from overseas (you can't find shit here) but I have to limit it as the exchange rate is so ridiculous at the moment. Just got a package from Independance yesterday, actually, with a couple of obvious tunes (Colder RMX, Ice Cream Man, Be There Or Be Square blah blah blah) and the Bashy and Bossman mix cd's.

dubplatestyle
26-01-2005, 11:13 AM
yo

Chef Napalm
26-01-2005, 11:38 AM
Hi there.

Grime: 's OK, I guess. Feeling some of it.

Dubstep: see dialectic_bricks' post above. Waaaaaayyy too No U-Turnish.

carlos
26-01-2005, 01:19 PM
houston, tx

i've liked most of the grime and dubstep i've been able to hear- mostly through downloads and streams.

i like the dubby kode 9 type stuff best

ryan17
26-01-2005, 02:17 PM
Virginia a couple of months out of the year.

captain easychord
26-01-2005, 02:25 PM
the dreaded icy climes of toronto

i DJ pretty regularly and promote a monthly jam. feeling bashment style grime more than dubstep, currently buying lots of stuff from RD and Independance and playing it out.

Dubquixote
26-01-2005, 03:30 PM
I'm in New York also. Used to buy loads from Big Apple (you are sorely missed!) I always try to slip little mini dubstep/grime sets into the dancehall and dub that I play out.

Grime is about to blow here though (in the underground at least). It's very much on the radar of the scenesters in the last few months.

DigitalDjigit
26-01-2005, 04:31 PM
I am in Baltimore. I do not like grime but I do not see how that has anything to do with being on this forum. There's all kinds of musical knowledge being thrown around here.

Eric
26-01-2005, 04:36 PM
Austin Texas here, love grime, less so dubstep
also (dancehall) reggae, reggaeton, ...
Carlos---Houston huh?

carlos
26-01-2005, 04:45 PM
Carlos---Houston huh?

yep

Keith P
26-01-2005, 04:53 PM
I am in Baltimore. I do not like grime but I do not see how that has anything to do with being on this forum. There's all kinds of musical knowledge being thrown around here.

It seems alot of people on here are into it, even the stateside heads. Thats why I was asking.

Keith P
26-01-2005, 04:57 PM
anyone stateside and to my people in texas please add me to your instant messenger if u r on aim or msn

Kuma
26-01-2005, 06:15 PM
*lighter*

Vancity, representin'...

turtles
26-01-2005, 08:02 PM
Vancity, representin'...
Big up.


Also liking all axes of the grime/dubstep world, though true love is still house & techno.

chimpybits
27-01-2005, 01:11 AM
Vancouver's biggest grime head here. grime all the time.

nomos
27-01-2005, 01:23 AM
I'm in Ottawa. +40 C in the summer/-40 C in the winter.

Really started following grime and dubstep in the last year but I have yet to meet anyone in town who shares my enthusiasm.

satanmcnugget
27-01-2005, 01:23 AM
im from Toronto, Canaduh...im lovin' what i can manage to hear of grime like no music in a loooooooooooooooooooooooong time...not as keen on the dubstep stuff

nomos
27-01-2005, 01:26 AM
im lovin' what i can manage to hear of grime like no music in a loooooooooooooooooooooooong time
Yeah I'll second that. It's like the periods when I first got into Hip Hop and Jungle.

juliand
27-01-2005, 04:41 AM
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i'm in san francisco, california.
grime yes, but dubstep nerp. not for me.
my true allegiances lie with e-40 and e-a-ski.

kidkameleon
27-01-2005, 04:57 AM
Oakland, CA
I DJ and promote when I can.
I like dubstep, but Dubstep takes a beating everywhere. Maybe my definition is too wide. I get the feeling when most people say dubstep they mean Kode9 and artists on Tempa... I just like everything that's coming out of that scene, but often the stuff that doesn't have MCs in it does it for me. Exceptions of course. I like Plasticman (for example)... Is he dubstep or Grime? or both? or neither? Or, who cares?

Keith P
27-01-2005, 06:15 AM
I like Plasticman (for example)... Is he dubstep or Grime? or both? or neither? Or, who cares?

Plasticman and Mark One are calling their sound grime now. They're own personal take on it. Not really one to argue cus tune like CHA is a full on grime tune IMO

adruu
27-01-2005, 01:47 PM
brookyln via houston/austin/montreal. haven't bought records in three years, but desperately fiending to do doubles of marsta's jawbreaker on a proper system.

jd_
27-01-2005, 02:23 PM
I'm from Toronto too.

captain easychord
27-01-2005, 04:44 PM
hold tight the toronto cru.

DavidD
27-01-2005, 10:10 PM
I'm from Chicago. About to graduate from college in Ohio, move back to the city.

Jay Vee
28-01-2005, 08:43 AM
Jersey City, represent.

satanmcnugget
28-01-2005, 06:59 PM
its great to see so many Nuckers on the board...there is one more here that i know of, alth he's keeping a low profile...we must all get together at one of Luca's parties in the Market real soon and roll a big one :) ...that's if i ever go outside again, which i dont plan on doing until March or April :)

nomos
28-01-2005, 08:35 PM
we must all get together at one of Luca's parties in the Market real soon and roll a big one :) ...that's if i ever go outside again, which i dont plan on doing until March or April :)
Yeah I'd like to make it to TO and check out X-shit when school and the weather ease up a bit.

captain easychord
28-01-2005, 09:56 PM
for sure, big t.o. link up come spring.

Dubquixote
28-01-2005, 10:22 PM
All North America dubstep massive...

I just uploaded a live mix by Mr. Joe Nice at Sonar in Baltimore. Joe's reppin dubstep big over here. Grab it at http://dubquixote.blogspot.com. Lotsa goodies from the Mystikz. Some nice crowd noise and MCing in there as well....

Enjoy!

ripley
29-01-2005, 04:01 AM
late of Brooklyn, now Oakland (as of August)

hello hello: jungle grime breakcore dancehall digidub glitchybreak/hop rocksteady and plenty of other stuff in my record shelves

slanderlord
29-01-2005, 06:42 PM
Chicago, luv it.

Dig grime but mostly just hear the big things and misc. DJ mixes and radio clips that drift onto the net.

Brokeman
29-01-2005, 07:00 PM
Another Vancouverite here.
All about the Grime, intrigued but somewhat uneasy about Dubstep.

machine hugger
29-01-2005, 07:09 PM
BTW KID K. and Ripley- I was just listenin' to a Subtek mix. Pretty Ace. Guess I need to check out you folk's new night. Saturday 5th- SF right?

ripley
29-01-2005, 10:58 PM
Subtek is well skilled with the good tracks on hand.

This first night of the monthly we're sharing it with the previous crew - sort of a farewell/hello party. kid k and subtek will tag, which should be hot. have you checked kid k's shockout mix? and erm I've got one as well..

please do come out! bring your friends! make a night of it!

kidkameleon
29-01-2005, 11:06 PM
Ups to ya Mashine Hugga. Hope you can make it up from San J. A tip: Just worked it out with the outgoing crew ... they're playing from 12-close, so hope all can make it for the 9-12 spot. Earlyside I know, but that's when the grime/dub/ragga/jungle side will be happening. Ripple and Maebyn are dope too, but look for more straightforward breaks from them after midnight. Word to the wize...

Make sure to intro yourself when you're up! Others too!

machine hugger
30-01-2005, 04:02 AM
will do, Kid n' Rip.

jd_
30-01-2005, 04:06 AM
I'm in for the TO meet up too.

dev79
31-01-2005, 02:43 AM
philadelphia, pa stand up.

producer/dj/promoter

i love the grime sound and been rockin it for a minute now. me n my crew been throwin a monthly grime party here in philly since september, every 2nd thursday.

Kuma
31-01-2005, 07:49 AM
Another Vancouverite here.
All about the Grime, intrigued but somewhat uneasy about Dubstep.

Keep an ear open., thursday nights at midnight, 102.7 FM.
Very special treat coming soon if you're innit but on the edge..

Keith P
01-02-2005, 12:55 AM
ok
a question to anyone that is doing events...
what types of crowds do your find yourself marketing this music to?
Whats the most success have you've had with certain demographics?

martyturenne
01-02-2005, 08:49 PM
score another one for vancouver. who knew? can't see a grime and/or dubstep night working out here. maybe as a monthly?

kuma & brokeman: thoughts?

Kuma
01-02-2005, 11:42 PM
^
God forbid, are there enoungh people in town that have the records to do an entire night?
And that means more than someone playing Dizzee remixes back to back for an hour..

martyturenne
02-02-2005, 12:22 AM
strictly records, no.

burned cds, yes.

heretic alert!

turtles
02-02-2005, 12:37 AM
^
God forbid, are there enoungh people in town that have the records to do an entire night?
And that means more than someone playing Dizzee remixes back to back for an hour..
yeah no records for me either, pretty exclusively of the (non-purchased) digital variety. but i'd gladly stand in the audience and yell my approval.

hohohoho, burgeoning van city grime scene? that's a massive WTF coming from me right here. course this might also be the sum total number of grime fans in the entire city right here on this board.

martyturenne
02-02-2005, 12:46 AM
"course this might also be the sum total number of grime fans in the entire city right here on this board."

bet you're right. still, i'm betting there's some crossover potential here with the city's decent-sized community of d'n'b, dancehall, and hip-hop heads. i could see a kind a dancehall+grime+reggaeton night working here. and i'm willing to bet there's some djs out there who could mix that stuff up right. no?

martyturenne
02-02-2005, 12:48 AM
i'm proposing lots of betting in that last post

captain easychord
02-02-2005, 06:09 PM
re: the van city grime thing. the grime nights i attended in london only featured grime music for the apex of the night (like 1:00-2:00) before and after was made up of hip-hop, dancehall, UKG and a little jungle. so you could prolly pull it off.

Kuma
02-02-2005, 07:06 PM
I picture it crossing over locally with the whole IDM/Ragga angle more than I do with the local hip-hop and reggae crowds..

I could see some of the locals lads doing the breaks/jungle crossover events maybe taking someone on..

martyturenne
02-02-2005, 08:49 PM
"whole IDM/Ragga angle" = dubstep

"hip-hop and reggae crowds" = grime

dominic
05-02-2005, 11:36 AM
I picture it crossing over locally with the whole IDM/Ragga angle more than I do with the local hip-hop and reggae crowds..

that's the problem in a nutshell. grime in the states will be a middle-class, student phenomenon. idm cottoning on to the criticism set against it . . . . early jungle had a significant west indian immigrant following in the states, but despite the analogous position of today's grime i'd bet the store against grime making it big here among anyone other than student types . . . . as far as my personal assessment of grime goes, i haven't heard enough to form an opinion. certainly much of it is way too technoid for my ears, the sub-bass more bludgeon than undertow -- stuff that i imagine is from croydon -- and i've heard the remarc/virus syndicate stuff in shops, and i do not like it -- but much of the stuff that i take to be from east london rocks better than anything out of england post-94 . . . . so i guess i'm riding the fence on grime . . . .

to my ears dj/rupture has the right instincts. he needs only to drop the turntablizm schtick and get down to business. his track selection no less than his mixing was off the charts last week at rothko. crunk, dancehall, 2 bad mice, kelis. one or two grime tracks, one or two ragga jungle. and, if memory serves, some islamo-mediterranean music . . . . in a certain sense an update of eclectic balearic djing, but with far more rhythimic intensity

after dj/rupture left the stage, one of the shadetek djs (not zach) took over. he played dancehall 7s, and, despite his goofy exuberance, moved the crowd . . . . i left about 30 minutes before closing and stopped off at lotus, where the djs play dancehall on fridays. completely different vibe. thugs, drugs, rastas, skanked out girls in dreads. the djs nod and sway, they don't gesticulate. and one of the djs, born jamaica, now brooklyn or queens, uses the head set as a microphone, toasting into the ear. this is the crowd that rothko needs to get if things are to truly happen there, for things to be mixed and jumping (like a miniature version of volume on the dizzee rascal night) . . . . but the odds are they never will. the lotus djs have been down with the program their entire lives, just as the east london junglists and grime-ists were and have been. and people like that just don't give it away . . . . and no matter how packed out rothko gets, there'll be the creeping suspicion that it's all vanilla

so that's how matters stand with the reggae crowd. as for the real-deal hip hop crowd, no chance whatsoever that they'll embrace grime . . . . grime may get the undie hip hop crowd, but that's roughly the same crowd as idm, which is roughly the same crowd as post-98 d-n-b

and no, i'm not a dj. more like a very amateurish record collector. rode the 90/93 rave train and then rendevoused with dance music at various points thereafter . . . . ended up at dissensus by reading simon reynolds, which had in turn led to woebot, k-punk, stelfox, etc . . . . i also tend to frequent dj bars where nobody really dances, albeit on the east side of town . . . . however attractive i find "rave frenzy" intellectually, and however suspect i find "cosmopolitan sophistication" intellectually, i tend to favor in practice the kind of cool club culture that uk rave had initially revolted against ----- but in this as in all things, the u.s. is not the u.k. . . . . even so, i've heard a lot of boring broken beats and negroclash in recent years, opting for vibe at the cost of other nightlife values . . . . or rather, at this stage of the game i treat bars and venues as antidotes. lotus as antidote to rothko, rothko as antidote to nublu, nublu as antidote to rock music joints, and so forth

Dubquixote
05-02-2005, 04:25 PM
a/ Dominic...

I would've agreed with you about grime staying confined to middle-class / collegiate venues before today, but they just played Forward Riddim during Cipha Saturdays on Hot 97, so not I'm not so sure. Cipha always pushes the new shit, so it seems like something might be brewing behind the scenes.

Logan Sama
05-02-2005, 05:20 PM
Lil jon had meetings with various grime acts last week in the UK.

Jammer is going out to New York in March.

Riko has been asked to go out and work with a big up n coming producer in New York.

The reason grime will work with the urban market in the states is because it is made by the same people who make the jump up club style hip hop in the states.

Every time I hear a story about Dipset i laugh because they are so similar to Roll Deep. The Crunk raves are scarily similar to Grime dances.

Remember that British culture still holds a huge amount of weight in the States and when they understand the whole Grime phenomenon the music will become accepted.

polystyle desu
05-02-2005, 05:30 PM
I hear you DubQ and Logan - right on

Give it a chance to seep in over here ...
Don't be 'knowing' what's going to happen - not so soon , please .

Just some threads ago, there was lamenting whether Grime' was ever going to get out of parts of London
Seemed to be 'boxing it in' already , almost post mortem .

Let it do what it will do
I'm sure the artists themselves don't think as 'how big' is it going to get/'who's' going to get it' as much about it as bloggers do
They are too busy being out there doin it ,
buzzed and hungry

dominic
05-02-2005, 07:36 PM
they just played Forward Riddim during Cipha Saturdays on Hot 97


Lil jon had meetings with various grime acts last week in the UK.

perhaps it's a question of grime entering america by various routes . . . .


The reason grime will work with the urban market in the states is because it is made by the same people who make the jump up club style hip hop in the states.

how so?


Every time I hear a story about Dipset i laugh because they are so similar to Roll Deep. The Crunk raves are scarily similar to Grime dances.

can't say i've ever been to a crunk rave (?????) . . . . go to any big downtown club in nyc, and the djs (as i'm sure you well know) will be playing lots of crunk. the music is undeniable. it rules the radio, mtv, the big clubs. but there's no subcultural pressure in such venues. it's all champagne and excess and models and bridge 'n' tunnel white folks intent on burning money . . . . i don't doubt that there's "crunk raves" happening uptown harlem or down in atlanta, new orleans, memphis, tampa -- it's just that i've never been to one . . . . when i described my impressions of the grime night at rothko, i factored myself out of the equation -- but i of course fit the rothko demographic


Remember that British culture still holds a huge amount of weight in the States

seems to me that you're now switiching tracks . . . . british culture has weight with hipsters (re: nyc rock bands having to make it big in u.k. first) and the student classes, and with the reggae crowd (kingston/brixton/crown heights axis), but don't think that american hip hop scene cares one iota about u.k. music . . . . correct me if i'm wrong

again, i'm not the person to pronounce on grime's likelihood for success in america. and i should add that i'm not a big hip hop fan. too much verbal content for my ears . . . . which is why i prefer dancehall and crunk to traditional nyc hip hop, because dancehall and crunk are more sing-song, more chant, more poptastic, more dancefloor orientated . . . .

i think grime can get a bit monotonous and overbearing, not unlike a lot of hip hop . . . . which is why i went on to say that i preferred dj/rupture, who is of course *not* a grime-ist

and the only reason i offered my assessment of grime is because the person who started this thread wanted to know if north american people on dissensus were all into grime and dubstep. and so i wrote to say that i'm not into the one or the other . . . . that said, grime does peak my curiosity, probably because all things u.k. carry great weight with me. and i intend to hit rothko fairly regularly, even though i have doubts about the crowd. if nothing else, it makes for a good antidote

Logan Sama
05-02-2005, 07:42 PM
The type of people who make the sort of Hip hop that seems to be interested in the Grime scene come from undeniably similar socio-economic conditions as those who make grime in the UK.

You need to look at the two musics in their natural environment , factor out the music and you have undeniably similar people and cultures.

It's the same if you go to Jamaica, factor out the actual end product, and the people and cultures are very similar.

And that's why this Grime music is slowly but surely being appreciated, understood and accepted by you Yanks.

nomos
05-02-2005, 09:15 PM
The type of people who make the sort of Hip hop that seems to be interested in the Grime scene come from undeniably similar socio-economic conditions as those who make grime in the UK.
You need to look at the two musics in their natural environment , factor out the music and you have undeniably similar people and cultures.
It's the same if you go to Jamaica, factor out the actual end product, and the people and cultures are very similar.
And that's why this Grime music is slowly but surely being appreciated, understood and accepted by you Yanks.
Which is why it may be most likely to find its first foothold in Toronto (as Jungle did) rather than the States. Toronto and London have more in common as destination points of post-colonial Commonwelath migration from the Caribbean; are more comparable in terms of contemporary living conditions; and have a long history of music-sharing/mutation across the Atlantic (in contrast to the general preference for 'American' music in the US). They also share a degree of ambivalence toward US Hip Hop asserting itself as the 'real' and the 'authentic' source of urban/black/underclass expression. Jungle gave kids in Toronto a sense of being less culturally reliant on the States (albeit through intense Anglophilia). Maybe I'll be proven wrong. Certainly, the crunk afffiliation shouldn't be overlooked. But I'm still putting my (pretend) money on the T-dot, if only because Toronto listeners may be more accepting of the tempo and more attuned to the accents/vernacular.

Keith P
05-02-2005, 09:48 PM
can't say i've ever been to a crunk rave (?????)

When they say rave it doesn't always mean(well not in this context) kids with fat pants and candy bracelets drooling all over themselves in a state of drug euphoria like it does in the US. It's just a general term for a big event.

mpc
05-02-2005, 10:05 PM
a rave just means a clubnight in the context used in grime scene. just going to a club is classed as a rave.

Yuri
06-02-2005, 04:51 AM
Dripping Springs, Texas

nomos
07-02-2005, 04:27 AM
Just saw 'Stand Up Tall' on Musique Plus, the French video station.

cooper
10-02-2005, 04:48 PM
hi.
i'm in the US, NC to be exact.
i've djed uk garage since the 2-step days, and i have a little record label with a comp. out of unreleased tracks from US/Canadian producers: http://urbanrenewalrecords.com . sometimes i get to go to other cities and dj, and that's really fun.
i write 12" grime/dubstep reviews for xlr8r magazine.
actually, i moderate a little discussion list for talk about UKG. it's been running about 5 years now, and most people on it are based in North America - it was the foundation of our Transatlantic events at WMC (4 years running now) and, for that matter, the Transatlantic Bass compilation i did. hit me up if you want to be on it.
i tend to play the range of the ukg sound, and for that matter some dancehall, broken beat, and hip-hop as well - but i don't play much of the new 4x4 or vocal 2-step, just because i have a whole stack of records that i think are as good or better - but i do quite like terrah danjah's new work with sadie and such.

claim to fame: luka gave me a tour of bow one time.

luka
10-02-2005, 04:51 PM
my pleasure...

artdamages
10-02-2005, 04:57 PM
i am in western Minnesota.

anyone think post-Run The Road there will be any possiblity for US grime tours?

Eric
10-02-2005, 05:13 PM
i am in western Minnesota.

anyone think post-Run The Road there will be any possiblity for US grime tours?

well dizzee ... :) but it looks like your part of the country is losing out on this particular tour unless you feel like driving to Chicago:

03-15 London, England - Royal Festival Hall
03-18 Exeter, England - The Lemon Tree (Vibraphonic Festival)
03-30 Vancouver, British Columbia - The Commodore Ballroom
03-31 Portland, OR - Doug Fir Lounge
04-01 Seattle, WA - Neurmos Crystal Ball Reading
04-02 Eugene, OR - Wow Hall
04-04 San Fransico, CA - The Independent
04-05 Los Angeles, CA - El Rey Theatre
04-06 San Diego, CA - Canes
04-08 Salt Lake City, UT - Lo-Fi Cafe
04-11 Dallas, TX - Gypsy Tea Room
04-12 Austin, TX - The Parish
04-14 Houston, TX - Engine Room
04-15 New Orleans, LA - The Parish
04-16 Atlanta, GA - The Loft at Earthlink Live
04-18 Orlando, FL - The Social
04-19 Miami, FL - I/O Lounge
04-21 Carrboro, NC - Cat's Cradle
04-26 Boston, MA - Middle East Cafe
04-27 Montreal, Quebec - Club Soda
04-28 Toronto, Ontario - The Opera House
04-29 East Lansing, MI - Union Ballroom
04-30 Chicago, IL - Double Door

artdamages
10-02-2005, 06:09 PM
If there was somekind of small US Run The Road tour it would be fantastic! but I suppose if Dizzee isn't even playing by me there is probably no chance. I play grime mp3s on my college radio show and there are some kids who are interested. I think it can take a while for people to get their ears around this stuff especially when the only analogue for it is us hip-hop. But then it doesn't sound so alien if you like say Wu-Tang and crunk and Def Jux (ignoring any qualitative assesment of El-P and amerundie here).

Someone needs to start getting 12''s and all those CD/DVD things over here somehow so I can afford to buy them. Preferably w/o any Vice involvement.

Eric
10-02-2005, 06:14 PM
oh sorry! I didn't notice the East Lansing date ... you may be in luck :)

Dubquixote
10-02-2005, 07:31 PM
regarding run the road tour (sort of) and other NYC grime event news courtesy of mr. reynolds...

Bangers and Mash 2
resident djs: shadetek sound system, drop the lime
february 11th, 10 til 4
$3
Rothko, 116 Suffolk at Rivington, Lower East Side


HEAT - Grime Sessions
featuring:
DJ Cameo (BBC 1xtra, 679 records)
MC Deadly Crisis
DJ Dinesh
DJ Greg Poole
Sunday February 20th
Location: Supreme Trading 213 N. 8th St., Williamsburg, Brooklyn.
1st stopon the L train to Bedford ave.
Cover: Free
Info: 212-560-0951 or info@goldspotmusic.com


Incidentally, Bangers and Mash on Fri Mar 11 looks set to feature:
Jammer, D Double E and Ears!!!!!!!
to coincide with Vice Recordings' release in America of Run The Road

Pearsall
10-02-2005, 07:34 PM
Are drinks expensive at Rothko? And where is Suffolk anyways? Near Houston?

adam
10-02-2005, 07:52 PM
Missed this thread!

London native now living in SF Bay Area.

dominic
10-02-2005, 10:53 PM
Are drinks expensive at Rothko? And where is Suffolk anyways? Near Houston?

beer is $6, so perhaps a dollar more than the going rate (no pabst on hand)

take the F to Delancey/Essex -- then walk east a couple blocks -- Norfolk, then Suffolk -- go left (north) on Suffolk -- and Rothko is on right (east) side of the street -- if you hit Rivington, you've gone too far

and yes, it's near houston, a little more than 2 blocks south

Dubquixote
11-02-2005, 12:49 AM
$5 if you're willing to drink bud ;)

i'll be playing dubstep downstairs in the lounge so anybody who makes it should come say hello.

Logan Sama
11-02-2005, 01:35 AM
I think Jammer and the Lord of the Decks crew are reaching that event

Keith P
11-02-2005, 03:45 AM
I need to fly up to New York.

Jesse D Serrins
11-02-2005, 05:47 AM
'nother NYC resident here, and very glad about the fact that there's a night happening with excellent tunes and room to dance (maybe it's just me, but usually it's either one or the other or a cover charge and expensive drinks). Last time w/ rupture et al got me very psyched, the crowd wasn't as homogenous (i.e. white) as someone a few days ago wanted to suggest. Anyway, people were having a good time as far as I could tell, and that's what matters. Plus it seemed like some people wandered in there who wouldn't've been caught dead absorbing noise blasts off rupture's decks otherwise, which I found quite amusing...

And Grime's cool to my ears, though it didn't really hit me until I heard it played out which I guess isn't surprising.

stardust
11-02-2005, 06:02 AM
I reside in Anchorage, Alaska.
The amount of people up here that would even recognize the words dubstep or grime are probably in the hundreds, at most. And thats just people who would recognize, not those who are into it.

SIZZLE
11-02-2005, 07:45 PM
holler back dissensus,

Matt Shadetek here, 1/3 of the aforementioned Bangers and Mash NYC Grime DJ crew. In spite of my exuberance I move the crowd? Don't get it twisted dog. My idea of a fun party is not me looking cool behind the decks it is getting a crowd of people to the point where they don't give a fuck and end up sweating and grinding on one another, I find that not giving a fuck myself helps a lot towards this goal.

I feel optimistic about the possibility for acceptance of grime by those other than the expected metro hipster crowds due to a couple of wierd anecdotes: my homeboy D's girl who is from Guyana and is EXTREMELY picky about what she likes (basically only new dancehall, and mostly Sizzla) LOVES the shit. She even took our mixCD Heavy Meckle and played it for her middle aged moms, who was reportedly not mad at it. Anecdote two is how easily accepted it was by the crowd at our rave, including people like my little sister and her friends who basically just like dancehall and reggaeton etc. If the NYC bashment girls will accept it, imho very little else matters. Then you have shit like Cipha playing Forward on Hot97, which is just wild.

And yes, the guests for March 11th are confirmed: Jammer, Dee Double E and Ears will be in the building and they are excited, as are we.

Tonight we got Airborn Audio, Zesto, DTL, SHT Sound, Crito and Dubquixote, hope to see all my NYC ravers at Rothko 116 Suffolk St. right by the Williamsburg Bridge in the LES, Manhattan. 3 Bucks to get in which includes Free Red Stripe.

Jesse D Serrins
12-02-2005, 12:29 AM
let me just finish smoking this and i'll be right over...

Cornflake
21-02-2005, 04:56 AM
First post...

from just outside ottawa actually....been listening to grime scene since about october or so not that long...

im going to be having some uk talent dvd/cds coming over soon i think so let me know if your looking for a link up...

Ive been trying to get some of the club246 crew to do a show with some grime djs in ottawa coming up... but they are more uk garage and 2step and stuff im not really into

im just starting up my vinyl collection, and i picked up the sidewinder cd pack from november that was pretty hot

Logan Sama
21-02-2005, 07:18 AM
Can everyone please show my mix cd to everyone who is willing to hear it. I put it together to be a showcase of the full spectrum of influences and sounds of the scene, so hopefully there will be something on there for everyone.

It's really encouraging to see that after the initial negative remarks from the hip hop crowd last year when Dizzee first came out, people are starting to understand and accept the british sound and culture of Grime music.

anchimon
27-02-2005, 03:07 AM
Can everyone please show my mix cd to everyone who is willing to hear it. I put it together to be a showcase of the full spectrum of influences and sounds of the scene, so hopefully there will be something on there for everyone.

Got the sidewinder tape on replay in my ipod :) good selection, all kinds of flavor. thanks Logan.

Hello all. This is Anchimon of the Seattle massive / Garridge.com (http://garridge.com), just registered here, looks like nice company. Keep us in mind for things.

believekevin
27-02-2005, 07:50 PM
To start: I'm living in Lower Allston, a neighborhood in Boston, MA, USA. The cliques I am in contact with (mostly white, middle-class, college-educated, indie/noise) locally know of grime only with regard to dizzee rascal. There is another contingent out here of UKG-obsessed folks with whom I am not acquainted that have an affection for the dubstep/sublow sounds. (see: http://www.soulchampion.com/ )

Lately, some folks have taken to the shit I've been pumping to them on the regular for weeks. Interestingly, most of the positive feedback I've heard has been to Lady Sov (perhaps to all of your chagrin?)

The racial divide is more pronounced in Boston than in NYC or Toronto. I think if something is percieved white here, it will be a steep uphill climb to reaching non-white audiences. Most big dancehall / hiphop happens at clubs outside city limits at clubs on the north shore.

I teach high school and in talking to some students who are into hiphop about the haps in London, they twice responded, "There are black people in London?"

Take that as you will !

I'll be down to NYC on March 11.

boosted
02-03-2005, 06:15 PM
I'm here ... way down in Miami ... been doing the UKG thing for a bit now ;-)

Check the wmc05 bizness --> Transatlantic IV

http://www.boosted.com/images/Transatlantic4web.jpg

http://www.boosted.com

DeepSix
03-03-2005, 03:31 AM
Reppin' Toronto/Hamilton for a while now.

More into "proper" UK Garage (as some people like to call it), but have a great love for dubstep as well as grime - it's more a question of what I buy and play vs. what I like.

Due to my show formats and residencies, as mentioned by Cornflake re: Club246, I play more radio friendly stuff (though, now that my show is not on Club246 anymore...who knows) and really like to get the ladies moving.

But that doesn't mean I don't like grime or that I can't play dubstep. I just don't have as many opportunities.

I can almost guarantee you that I was the first commercial FM DJ in North America to play any grime on the radio as I've been playing for over a year. I'm just not as important as Hot97 :D I just put up 2 short mixes that I did last year on www.rinseit.ca/broadcasts for the more grimey side of things.

I have 2 monthlies currently - at the Labyrinth Lounge in Toronto the 3rd Friday of each month and at Stages in Kingston. The one in Kingston HAS to be commercial just due to the crowd (it's a top40 club) but the one at the Labyringth is more of a free-for-all night. I play dubstep there frequently and hope to break out the grime more often now.

Nice to know there's more grime fans in Toronto. We need to support each other and cross promote.

DeepSix
03-03-2005, 03:48 AM
Re: Grime "breaking" in Toronto - we had thought the same with UKG re: racial diversity, Caribbean culture, etc. but it didn't prove true.

What Grime does have though, is a lot more "face" value - i.e. it's not just producers and DJs...it's MCs and that's what the masses understand - the front man.

And with hometown hero Kardinall Offishal rinsing over the FWD riddim, who knows? It may just blow!

I'm all for helping the cause!

Planning a new mixtape for general consumption as I type...

seahorsegenius
03-04-2005, 09:30 AM
yes, the midwest. missouri actually.

cortempond
02-05-2005, 06:54 PM
Hello from Chicago. It's cold as hell here. And it's May 2. It's the global warming kicking in.

In addition to my daily gig at the Newberry Library (second-largest research library in the US and the only one open to the public) I also work at the Virgin Megastore here in the heart of the city. This allows me to watch a lot of movies and listen to music, which is a good gig, because that's what I would be doing otherwise and not getting paid for.

Right now, listening to a lot of Brazil -- Joyce, Marcos Valle, Ivan Lins, Chico Buarque. Also into a split bewteen Grindcore and ILM/Kompakt music. Picked up the Kaito and Bibio album on Sat. Also love the Michael Mayer stuff. Boards of Canada of course. Then The Locust, Pig Destroyer, High On Fire, Godflesh and Head of David.

All time faves - Roxy Music, Wire, Gang Of Four.

Canada J Soup
03-05-2005, 11:13 PM
Yet another NYC based poster. Originally from Dublin, made my way here via London and Brussels. Been in the US almost six years, NYC for the last four. Picked up on grime / dubstep partly from looking for more stuff that sounded like EL-B / Wookie / Horsepower in full on bass heavy mode c.1999 / 2000 and partly via the web. (Blogs of certain Dissensus elder statespersons were instrumental in ratcheting up my interest to its current levels.) Ended up here after reading the very, very long MIA thread on ILM and decided that it looked like a nice place to squander even more of the time my employer pays for. Have fairly wide ranging musical interests, but 130bpm+ danceable vinyl has been a central theme for much of the last 12 years. (That and The Fall-ah.) Used to DJ fairly regularly when still in Europe, but it's become something more like an occasional hobby in the last few years. My contribution to the NYC grime scene to date consists of clearing the floor in a Park Slope bar last year by opening a set with Target & Riko's 'Chosen One'.

joenice
14-05-2005, 12:14 PM
Joe Nice?
know you must be on here

just a bit of a roll callYes Keith. I've signed up. i'm here. Finally.....i'm a bit late, but better late than never. Wish I had known earlier....

LOCATION: Baltimore, MD.

I am in Baltimore. I do not like grime but I do not see how that has anything to do with being on this forum. There's all kinds of musical knowledge being thrown around here.

AH !!! Another resident of the 410. Excellent.

May28th...check this. (http://joenice.net/5_28_Sonar.jpg) Hope to see you out there.


All North America dubstep massive...

I just uploaded a live mix by Mr. Joe Nice at Sonar in Baltimore. Joe's reppin dubstep big over here. Grab it at http://dubquixote.blogspot.com. Lotsa goodies from the Mystikz. Some nice crowd noise and MCing in there as well....

Enjoy!Jeez....i didnt even know this was linked here. thanks brother.....

Hard to believe this show was Nov. 2004. Seems like such a long time ago.....wow. An absolutely special night. We were supposed to close that room @ 145am....it's 205 and I'm reloading MarkOne's tune "Mean Fiddler". After the show, i remember being so pumped up! i couldnt sleep.

The girl that grabbed the mic.....well....she couldnt rhyme....but she looked good. real good.

If anyone wants a copy of this show, click <A HREF="mailto:joenice@gourmetbeats.com?subject=11-13 Sonar CD">HERE.</A> Any other shows....let <A HREF="mailto:joenice@gourmetbeats.com">me</A> know.

My monthly radio shows on GourmetBeats.com (http://www.gourmetbeats.com) and BreaksFM (http://www.breaksfm.com) will be made available for download.

http://www.joenice.net/4-19.mp3
runtime - 1:16:17 @ - 192Kbps, file size - 104 MB

1. King Tubby - The Easy Dub
2. Professor JS - Dark Energy
3. Skream - Attitude
4. Soundproof Productions - Three Degrees
5. N-Type - The Ritual VIP
6. LWiz - Untitled *
7. Skream - Affekz VIP
8. D1 - Boiler
9. D1 - Brainstorm
10. Distance - Vicious Circle
11. Plasticman - Death By Stereo VIP **
12. Macabre Unit - Lift Off
13. Search and Destroy - Alley Cat
14. Toasty - Angel *
15. Cogent - Dirtbag
16. Distance - Empire *
17. Toasty - Reflect
18. Shackleton - Relentless Morning

* - reload
** - double reload

http://www.joenice.net/5_3_breaksfm.mp3
runtime - 59:21 @ - 128Kbps, file size - 54.3 MB

1. King Tubby - I Yah Who Dub
2. Loefah - Monsoon Remix
3. D1 - NoTurningBack
4. Skream - i
5. Loefah v Skream - 28 Gramz
6. Digital Mystikz - DaWrath VIP
7. Skream - Affekz VIP
8. LWiz - Untitled
9. Skream - Indian Dub VIP
10. Digital Mystikz - Neverland
11. D1 - Boiler
12. Digital Mystikz - Conference
13. Plasticman - The Mammoth Remix
14. Search & Destroy - Vulcan Grip

<marquee>ENJOY !!!!!</MARQUEE>

shudder
07-07-2005, 02:38 PM
From toronto too.. just getting onto the grime tip (Dizzee, Wiley, Run the Road, a couplr pirate rips, etc)... not so much on the dubstep yet.


[QUOTE=DeepSix]And with hometown hero Kardinall Offishal rinsing over the FWD riddim, who knows? It may just blow! QUOTE]

a collabo with kardi and some east london kids would be beyond sick, no?

jd_
07-07-2005, 03:30 PM
Hey, a friend sent me this (people sharing Toronto tapes in mp3)
http://cydonian.com/sigmaforum/index.php?showforum=4

There's a Toronto radio one too that's got old Prophecy shows and stuff off that link. Some of the links are dead YSI's but there are good ones in there too.

Tha Megatron
05-08-2005, 08:03 AM
Megatron here (on the late bus as usual...)

well im based out of the San Francisco/Bay Area...home of crazy progressive hippies, garlic festivals, and the baddest (USA) Football team in the country, the OAKLAND RAIDERS!!!

back to the subject...Im a DJ whose been into Grime since the days 2step started to morph into some crazy bizness. Im more known out here in the Bay for doing DnB and i also do a bit of hip hop and scratching on the decks. Latey though i been in 24 Hour Grime Mode...like when you only listen to Grime on the iPod all day long. I play alot of the mc tunes and riddims but i also like the dubstep sounds too most of the time.
anyways big up the list and hope I can meet more folks out there weather it be from the Bay or as far as Japan. We're all in da same gang.

mega

Whoa-B
11-08-2005, 08:58 PM
Chicago what.

lissajou
08-09-2005, 03:18 PM
actionville, florida.

representing red velvet cake
and antibellum crackhouses
like whoa...

Constance Labounty
23-09-2005, 08:28 PM
Worcester, MA

Bit of a dark industrial vibe round here. Proper grim n grimey. But I don't know of anyone round here who's into UK underground.

ToRMeNT
09-10-2005, 02:14 AM
erm...

Calgary AB via Vancouver, B.C, Canaduh - and visaversa. How ya guys/gals doin??!


Run riddim!! :mad:

I've horded dubstep & twisted garage rekkids for the past 4 years or more. I like alot of different stuff tho. I hosted Vancouver's & western Canada's longest running jungle/dnb FM radioshow ( 1995/'96 - 2005, now "defunct", or hibernatin', who knows? ), as well as an extreme electronic music show playing noize, Illusion of Safety records, distorted tings, breakcore & general h/c electronix boom bap. Volume is cool.

I happily playlisted some of the standard "early" dubstep & breakstep label catalogues on my radioshows, everything from Oris Jay, Tempa, Mutiny, Rat Recs, Ghost Recs, Soul Ja, Big Apple, Naughty, and more including Hotflush, Hardlivin, SlaughterMob, etc... not that that was very long ago or anything. The music just needed to be heard, that's all.

Oh yeah, I'm listening to Sound Secration & Muzlim Gauze as i post. hehe. whut!

I've been playing grime & dubstep in clubs here in Calgary on occasion ( small prarie city, only 1 million population ), and altho there's a standard breaks scene, considering you can no longer find dubstep in the ONE local electronic music record shop, I'm sure i'm the lone voice on this frontier out here. In contrast, you can find "grime" 12"s & releases in punkrock / hip-hop record shops locally, but not @ the local dance vinyl haunt. Strange huh?

Anyhoo.

LOOK MOM!!! Another forum! boh!

Riddim.ca, C8.com, Ragga-Jungle.com, Widerstand.org...

geto.blast
10-10-2005, 12:33 PM
Ottawa/Hull soundsystem here with Toronto and soon Montreal components.

z

geto.blast.soundsystem

dawnchairy
21-10-2005, 09:08 PM
Also Vancity, though I'm so new to this I just registered today. As yet just downloading, but vinyl soon to follow.

Moodles
23-10-2005, 03:13 PM
Austin, TX via Boston, MA

I'm not much of Grime or Dubstep fan, more into dnb and techno, though really indie rock is my fave.

red_and_white
08-12-2005, 01:09 PM
Ottawa, Canada

Freakaholic
09-12-2005, 04:25 PM
chicago.

got into grime via dubstep via breaks via electro. kinda roundabout.

but i still dont understand it. when i started gettin records, i thought grime was instrumentals, like 2-step version of DnB.

but whatever, im just a sucker for bass.

BrokenFist
23-02-2006, 07:30 AM
I go to school at Purdue University in Indiana but I live in New York City (Manhattan) when I'm not there.

sufi
28-03-2006, 02:45 PM
hahaha i'm in roanoake virginia, dood!
roooadtrip! :D :D :D

sherief
28-03-2006, 07:06 PM
Washington University in St. Louis via Memphis

henry s
29-03-2006, 07:14 PM
Boston, Mass... which is pretty obvious, really...I'm artificially inflating my post quantity so's I reach #200 that much faster (getting me a new Stones song, and a commemorative coffee mug, I believe)...

vizzie
08-05-2006, 08:07 PM
vizzie here. part of the psylab underground. we cover a range of edm styles. even the occassional dubstep diversion... check it live here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRAQENrw6qc

cheers.