making things bad on purpose

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wild greens said:
I guess ultimately none of these things really work as profit-driven concepts really, which was the crux of the thread to begin with anyway wasn't it. Money and profiteering is fucking us all up
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i think there's a strand of fucking stuff up that is not even profit driven - biting yr nose to spite yr face
 
Leo

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wild greens said:
It depends really. Some casual usage shouldn't really be problematic but on a day of high activity, i think it could easily be done. It was also a lot lower at first & i think is a very cynical short-sighted move by him to try and up subscriber rate to attempt to service this huge daft debt he's created to effectively buy a shitty little website anyway

A lot of the data-scraping also seems to be twitter DDOSing itself by constantly refreshing every twenty seconds as soon as a video plays

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I think the main problem with monetising these speculative free socials is that the eventual ad-driven endpoint creates an odd singularity wherein even though our core interests may divert massively we are all bombarded with these fuckwit AI/crypto lads as mentioned above, or endless drop-shippers etc, as they're the only non-corporations who are willing to spend enough money to project themselves into this shitty little ether. Even the corps are slowly giving up

I guess ultimately none of these things really work as profit-driven concepts really, which was the crux of the thread to begin with anyway wasn't it. Money and profiteering is fucking us all up
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you sound like you know what you're talking about (certainly more than me), so I'll take your word for it. however, it baffles me that any sane human would read 1,000 tweets in a day. do people actually do that?
 
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I would think the accounts where people have posted eg 150k times are doing well above 1000 a day

It would be enough to drive a man mad I'd think

Would assume something like Jan 6th or i.e these riots to the french, or world cup final day etc etc people are potentially doing a lot more as one-offs
 
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was in two banks today. one of them had no cashiers whatsoever for some unspecified reason
the other had a big queue and one cashier, while 2 other floating staff asked people if they wanted help using the macines (answer: no, obviously, im in the queue for the cashier so how about get behind the desk)
 
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the ones that still have cashiers intentionally make the customer experience as unappealing as possible, in hopes people won't use them anymore. they have no incentive to make the line move faster.
 
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that's right and cos it's all a masonic cartel no other bank is going to try and compete on quality
 
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Leo said:
the ones that still have cashiers intentionally make the customer experience as unappealing as possible, in hopes people won't use them anymore. they have no incentive to make the line move faster.
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Here is somewhere where I think the new wave of LLM AIs (specifically the natural language processes and semantic vector embeddings) can help customer service a lot, beyond the simple multi-choice voice recognition automation solution.
 
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It feels like we're quickly being ushered on to the next stage of the internet, there's been a sudden wave of things being aggressively locked down.
 
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Leo said:
the only way a “free service” for users can exist is to be ad supported. If you use ad blockers, what do you expect? there’s no such thing as a free lunch, versh.
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You always say this. Do you work in advertising or something? Ad blockers wouldn't exist if the people pushing the ads hadn't made them the most annoying things in the world and infected God knows how many people's computers with viruses over the years. They dug their own grave.
 
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The classic story of people running something into the ground then trying to squeeze more money out of it by making things even worse.

You can see it with the British water companies demanding higher bills to cover the cost of doing the things they should have been doing all along.

These companies make a ton exploiting people then play the victim when people push back a little or try to circumvent the bullshit.
 
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he works in advertising sales. he's said this many times. amazing how no one pays attention. he is the top ad salesman in new york city.
 
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Leo said:
the only way a “free service” for users can exist is to be ad supported. If you use ad blockers, what do you expect? there’s no such thing as a free lunch, versh.
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this is blatantly not true look at wikipedia web archive etc yawn zzz
 
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It's not as though these companies are ever satisfied anyway. Today maybe you have to watch a couple of ads, next month maybe it's three or four and they're longer, somewhere down the line maybe they come up with a way of fragmenting their product or implementing a tiered system and demanding you pay for the same access watching the ads was supposed to cover.
 
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version said:
It's not as though these companies are ever satisfied anyway. Today maybe you have to watch a couple of ads, next month maybe it's three or four and they're longer, somewhere down the line maybe they come up with a way of fragmenting their product or implementing a tiered system and demanding you pay for the same access watching the ads was supposed to cover.
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and users are just lurching about in a seething herd towards the next online collective self-harm platform, whatever that might turn out to be
 
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