Rave revival?
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Guybrush
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I don’t like hating, but I must weigh in that this is the BLANDEST CRAP I’ve heard in a long while. Jesus Christ! In fact, if I didn’t now about the nu-r**e tag, I would have thought they were just another ultra-boring run-of-the-mill rock band—or wait: they are! Has anyone mentioned how thinny and impotent the production is, by the way? Completely lacking the raw vivaciousness so integral to the composite genres appeal, it sounds more like a polished American Idol version of the two.
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nomadologist
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those three need to get a refund on last semester, srsly, that fucking song gravity's rainbow suXX0rZ
I think some people are over analysing this stuff.
In my first year at uni the majority of student nights consisted of a load of drunk people singing along and dancing badly to cheeeeese. I mean S Club 7 and Abba - really bad stuff. Now it's all Erol Alkan and Annie Mac down at the union spinning Para One remixes of Bloc Party and crap. As a genuinely popular music it really isn't all that bad.
Yes, there's music out there I'd rather listen to, but picking the recommendations of the fucking NME to judge this "nu-rave" scene on is kinda self-fulfilling isn't it? I totally agree that The Klaxons aren't amazing, and hearing the lead singer talk about Nu-Rave on MTV2's 2006 round-up last month was embarassing, but that doesn't mean that Kitsune et al aren't churning out some of the most infectious popular dance music in a long time. Plus the cross over between this and minimal/electro means you tend to get a variety of music played at Nu-Rave clubs, including some Grime - surely that should please even the most po-faced dissensian?
In my first year at uni the majority of student nights consisted of a load of drunk people singing along and dancing badly to cheeeeese. I mean S Club 7 and Abba - really bad stuff. Now it's all Erol Alkan and Annie Mac down at the union spinning Para One remixes of Bloc Party and crap. As a genuinely popular music it really isn't all that bad.
Yes, there's music out there I'd rather listen to, but picking the recommendations of the fucking NME to judge this "nu-rave" scene on is kinda self-fulfilling isn't it? I totally agree that The Klaxons aren't amazing, and hearing the lead singer talk about Nu-Rave on MTV2's 2006 round-up last month was embarassing, but that doesn't mean that Kitsune et al aren't churning out some of the most infectious popular dance music in a long time. Plus the cross over between this and minimal/electro means you tend to get a variety of music played at Nu-Rave clubs, including some Grime - surely that should please even the most po-faced dissensian?
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nomadologist
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if i can't overanalyze things there's really no point in living
Whatever, the Klaxons are just more thin gruel--- no matter what they are tangentially associated with by way of remixes, the other material played at "nu-raves" or whatever, all these things do is move away from the essential "Klaxonsishness" of the thing itself, ie- thin indie dance rock EXACTLY like that which has been foisted on us for the last five years, cleverly tarted up in day glo drag.
You also mistake the difference between a student Union/cheese type affair and an indie night.
You also mistake the difference between a student Union/cheese type affair and an indie night.
para one are ninetees euro trance as a fashionable idea though, and the perfect thing to cross with 90's indie stylings.
its simply that these things get coopted and people tastes develop a little.
i never understood annie mac, she seems like a real nothing but erol akan has his moments.
i think good things could cone from this altho alot of the dance music pushed by friends of nu rave ie ed banger etc, seems a bit one dimensional but yu can say that about dubstep
i'm banking on this guy - i see him in my neighbourhood all the time, how cld you miss him.
http://www.myspace.com/niyi
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Gabba Flamenco Crossover
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Guybrush
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This guy is infinitely much better; really damn good, actually!
tox: Most Ed Banger/Kitsune stuff is much much better than the Klaxons. I think the Van She remix of ‘Gravity’s Rainbow’ (their only decent track so far [well, the first 1,5 minute of it, anyway]) was on some Kitsune comp, but still.
Unless of course you're into enjoying things.
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mm but dissensus would not be much cop then would it/?
and , tox i'm not sure I agree. . its still backwards looking music...it could be worse but that could be said of the war in iraq.
i don't even have a problem with guitar bands pe se but i get really befuddled by the fact that pretty much nothing new has come to dominate the air waves/clubs, new rave is just like the garage rock shite, it will be done and dusted in a year or two. i mean topshop already have smiley face badges to go with it.
n yeh i compltely agree with gek, its really a case of throwing a cheap siren noise over horrid, rebarbative drain pipe jean tin can treble rock making it rave... if they were serious about this whole thing ceephax acid krew would be playing with them or something.
and , tox i'm not sure I agree. . its still backwards looking music...it could be worse but that could be said of the war in iraq.
i don't even have a problem with guitar bands pe se but i get really befuddled by the fact that pretty much nothing new has come to dominate the air waves/clubs, new rave is just like the garage rock shite, it will be done and dusted in a year or two. i mean topshop already have smiley face badges to go with it.
n yeh i compltely agree with gek, its really a case of throwing a cheap siren noise over horrid, rebarbative drain pipe jean tin can treble rock making it rave... if they were serious about this whole thing ceephax acid krew would be playing with them or something.
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but dissensus is'nt about hating on and wining about everything, that's a trait that's far to common here lately and a very shit place to be in.
its called nu rave.
3underscore
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I will just have to join in and say that I think Golden Skans is an excellent pop single. I love the vocal chorus mimic of the absent keyboard line. It's fun.
Justice and all the Ed Banger stuff is quite annoying. It just has too much on the production "LOUD" setting that it doesn't work for me. I can see why it will get people to cross over, as it has the big sound that noone has done since the Prodigy did the last crossover from indie music to dance. Phones first production was bad for this as well, which surprised me a lot.
I don't know why people are looking for such merits in this. It's an NME group of bands coming through trying something a bit different. Most of them are pretty fun, and they all have weak spots because they are being pushed to do albums early to catch a buzz. You aren't going to find a Burial, Beirut or Bob Dylan here, so there is no point looking.
Really - if you are going to all keep looking for genius in NME band movements, you are a slow learner and really miserable.
Justice and all the Ed Banger stuff is quite annoying. It just has too much on the production "LOUD" setting that it doesn't work for me. I can see why it will get people to cross over, as it has the big sound that noone has done since the Prodigy did the last crossover from indie music to dance. Phones first production was bad for this as well, which surprised me a lot.
I don't know why people are looking for such merits in this. It's an NME group of bands coming through trying something a bit different. Most of them are pretty fun, and they all have weak spots because they are being pushed to do albums early to catch a buzz. You aren't going to find a Burial, Beirut or Bob Dylan here, so there is no point looking.
Really - if you are going to all keep looking for genius in NME band movements, you are a slow learner and really miserable.
This.
Seriously, I mean if you're moaning so much about this stuff then what did you do in 2006, 2005, 2004 when coldplay and fucking razorlight were the UK's "real music" darlings?!
No, I don't mistake it. Two years ago the closest my union got to Indie was a crap affair called Brighton Beach stuck in the midnineties, chucking out horrible Britpop "classics" once a term. All other weekends were a night called Fruity playing cheese. We now have nights like Wax:On once a month with Erol, Simian, Riton (he's not even nu-rave) and Annie Mac and weekly Nu-Rave parties in the union. These are not just catering for the former indie crowd, cos that was tiny, but actually selling out to crowds who just wanna go and dance to some music. If that means I'm gonna see my fellow students shaking it out on the dance floor to Audion's remix of No Fit State, then I'm all for it. Does it matter if they're calling it Nu-Rave and that one of the many bands involved are shite?
Perhaps we don't really have a good enough definition of Nu-Rave, as for me Nu Rave ≠ Klaxons. But then if you're just reading about it rather than listening to it then maybe you can get the wrong impression of what a club playing nu-rave might entail. I also lack the prejudice some people who experienced actual rave might have to the name "nu-rave". But then what's in a name?
People have called me an apologist for this music on dissensus before, but I have to agree with mms and say it's getting tiring hearing people constantly trash shit on Dissensus. I begin to wonder whether there is actually enthusiasm for music on here at all.
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nomadologist
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How is analysis antithetical to enjoyment? It comes naturally to some people, so it's not like "work" that takes away from the "leisure" experience that is taking in art/entertainment.
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made a post that was waaaay too argumentative but the gist is:
Analysis is good and so is discussion, and perhaps I was a little short-sighted to claim that people were over-analysing. But since I've now taken that back then how about we discuss the musical points I raised instead?
made a post that was waaaay too argumentative but the gist is:
Analysis is good and so is discussion, and perhaps I was a little short-sighted to claim that people were over-analysing. But since I've now taken that back then how about we discuss the musical points I raised instead?
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Seriously though, analysis is antithetical to maximising idiotic enjoyment, ie: without some degree of analytical thought it would be possible to enjoy listening to utter rubbish. But more importantly for message boards of this nature to work they require analysis, a careful deconstruction of why one likes or dislikes something. Otherwise we might as well just post 
after a track name or artist and be done with it.
after a track name or artist and be done with it.I think there are a lot of guitar-bands who conceed just that and make good music because of it. Someone like The Hold Steady, totally classic/bar room rock which on a sonic/aesthetic level doesn't aspire to break new ground, but they're originality and appeal is in their lyrics and songwriting (that are in fact complimented by their accenting certain musical cliches of the genre). These factors may not make them appealing to some people who prefer music more (for want of a better word) progressive, but I don't think it's any less a valid artistic direction to take.