It's not even that. indie melodies are very dour. no emotional communication. might as well listen to prog metal guitar solos which also do nothing. one uses few notes to do nothing, the other uses so many notes to do nothing. it's a cul de sac in both cases, and not entirely for musicological reasons.
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It's not even that. indie melodies are very dour. no emotional communication. might as well listen to prog metal guitar solos which also do nothing. one uses few notes to do nothing, the other uses so many notes to do nothing. it's a cul de sac in both cases, and not entirely for musicological reasons.
malelesbian
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I used to say things like that and then I found out that Johnny Marr was such a fan of Chic that he named his son "Nile".
The truth is more complicated.
But it is true that indie is electric guitar music severed from the blues. The break actually came with punk - that's when boogie and shuffle rhythms etc dropped out of rock completely.
I am reading a book at the moment called Why Britain Rocks by Elizabeth Sharkey which is really interesting... it attempts to account for the freaky success, globally and for decades and decades, of UK pop and rock.... why has this tiny island, a fourth the population of USA, punched above its weight?
The conventional argument is that UK youth get their minds blown by this alien import from America, this jolt of rhythm that has no relation to their native culture... but when it comes to responding A/ have an advantage compared to other European nations because of being Anglophonic, so are already fluent in the language of rock'n'roll and B/ they add all these extraneous non-sonic elements that sparkle and sophisticate it (literate lyrics, art school ideas, sharp looking style, attitude). Some people add a sort of "nation of pirates and buccaneers" / imperialist type argument - a nation that is good at stealing stuff, taking primary raw materials, and refashioning them.
Sharkey, conversely, argues that the melodic DNA of rock 'n' roll originally comes in large part from the British Isles... ballads and folk forms that are brought over to the American colonies by settlers from Scotland, Ulster (essentially Scottish Protestants), and Northern England.... many of whom bring their culture directly and intact to Appalachia.
Which is one reason maybe why country music has always been popular in Scotland and Ireland.... it's a coming home
There's some kind of uncanny tectonic-plate predestination aspect to this.... due to the movement of the continental plates they were wrenched apart, but primordially the Appalachian range and the mountains of Scotland, Ireland and Wales were one!
Obviously no bearing on the millennia-later migrations of populations and musical traditions, but kind of eerie all the same, as a foretelling.
So the NME are actually to blame! they should have been going to soul nights and marrying Jamaicans in 1970 to go to blues parties in shebeens
Do you think hamas are friends of Indie?
malelesbian
Femboyism IS feminism.
Please stop. Listen to some music that has good lyrics please.
You should ask them.
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Yes, vitality and energy. Can you not hear from the timbre of those singers' voices that they're chads; indie is a safe space for non-chads. Do you expect your a cat to bark or a duck to neigh?
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It's not just that English people's use of English helped them parse US rock but also that they then sang in the lingua franca; as thirdform illustrates, you can have the best music in the world but if it's in Turkish only Turks are going to care.
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if you weren't so annoying you might get laid.
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bioconfused
third do you rate the Gordons
somewhat.