Dubstep is revolting
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viktorvaughn
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Will be interesting but i'd be surprised if it's anything other than..
'Deapoh is a legend who has done a lot of his own back and been a bit shabbily treated, but Ammunition have also done a lot for the sound and it does make good businesses sense [presuming that it does]. This is just the next stage of Dubstep growing up' I.e sitting on the fence.
Which is not a criticism by the way...just an observation.
Wiley's LP is clearly going to be 10 times better than Dizzee's!
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Im sure there IS a more sympathetic view to be articulated from Ammo's PoV, but to my mind their monopolistic position is in itself unhealthy, no matter how much they might have the best of intentions (or at least intentions which run parallel to those of the creatively healthy future of the genre)...
we locked the thread because nothing further was going to be said. we are waiting for an official response from ammunition.
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Luke Envoy works for ammunition.
almost certainly.
nomos
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i'm glad they're responding. will that be on the forum?
it's also a slightly misleading response given that the communications regarding this matter was not limited to emails. and long the way the ideas where in constant flux and deapoh was open to negotiation at one stage even proposing that he didn't want any money from rinse sets.
and for the record, no donations to barefiles have been used to support barefiles as a ltd company.
and for the record, no donations to barefiles have been used to support barefiles as a ltd company.
UFO over easy
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I think it's poor, and really quite a manipulative response. It addresses almost none of the key issues raised in the other thread, which has now been locked at the behest of Ammunition.
nomos
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I admit being a bit gullible when I first read it. I've been filled in on more details since then and edited my posts. You're right, Ben.
It's actually quite difficult to get a clear perspective from so far away (and when I have other things to deal with) which is why I'm staying out of it from now on. Still behind Deapoh.
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i dont think it's any of my business really and i havent spoken directly to barefiles or ammo about it. but what i would say is that it hasnt helped anyone to have this debate out in public where the vast majority of people a) rush to knee jerk reactions b) dont seem to have all the facts c) aren't experienced in the mechanics and the costs of the industry. this hasn't been a great weekend for the scene.
MATT MAson
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I think that's precisely the three reasons why people did want to hear your take on this Martin. There isn't a journalist more immersed in the dubstep scene than you, and I can't think of anyone better equipped to do a story like this justice.
Whether or not this should be public knowledge (I personally think transparency in any industry is usually a good thing. Having said that, it doesn't sound like anyone is being very transparent here), it is now a story.
Whether or not this should be public knowledge (I personally think transparency in any industry is usually a good thing. Having said that, it doesn't sound like anyone is being very transparent here), it is now a story.
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i really dont see it as my role to run in and get involved with someone else's dispute. magazines do this for their own sales figures and draw attention to themselves, but this approach doesnt apply nor hold any interest for me...
MATT MAson
BROADSIDE
But this isn't just a private dispute we should ignore. I think this has implications not just for the dubstep scene, but for underground music in general.
When the dubious business practices of the majors and the RIAA start to rub off on independents, that affects everybody. For that reason alone it is an important story. I don't think this is the kind of thing that would shift a lot of magazines, nor is it particularly sensational.
I just meant that if anyone was going to do this story properly, it is you sir, the almighty Ron Burgundy of dubstep.
When the dubious business practices of the majors and the RIAA start to rub off on independents, that affects everybody. For that reason alone it is an important story. I don't think this is the kind of thing that would shift a lot of magazines, nor is it particularly sensational.
I just meant that if anyone was going to do this story properly, it is you sir, the almighty Ron Burgundy of dubstep.
in that case all 'private' disputes in the music industry should just remain private. if labels are having private conferences on why urban music isnt a priority for 2007 then that shouldnt be written about, it should just be kept strictly behind boardroom doors. i thought as a journalist you would see the worth of this being aired out in public seeing as it concerns two very important parties in dubstep.