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It is worrying.
The real shame is that grime seems to be trying to emulate the hip hop model of business and succeed on those standards. What they might not understand is that this same business structure is basically what has left hip hop a bit stagnant, slow-moving and undiverse right now.
Hip hop is fucked because on one hand you have these pinnacles of commercial success a la 50 Cent, Young Jeezy, etc. and then you have vast amounts of rappers who want to achieve success on those same standards. Some are good, some are terrible, but all have the same goal: to make as much money as their idols.
What this has resulted in are very few growing scenes independent of the mainstream in hip hop. It is almost like if you are not trying to be rich like 50 Cent, then you are trying to be rich like Young Jeezy, and if you're not trying to be rich like either of them, you're trying to make the Wu-Tang record that the world already saw 10 years ago.
I like Young Jeezy, and occasionally I like 50 Cent too. I also like some of the people who have followed in their footsteps artistically. What I don't like is when people decide to follow the leader primarily out of a concern to make as much money as those they are following. The music gets bad very quick, and if it doesn't get bad, it gets lazy.
I will return to the point I have made time and time again on this board:
Boy In Da Corner by Dizzee Rascal: commercially successful, critically acclaimed, internationally recognized... ALL non-compromised grime start to finish. Why is nobody following this lead? Even Dizzee isn't following this lead.
it also took hiphop 20 years of growth for a business structure to be developed that allowed rappers to become as big as fifty cent & co.
viktorvaughn
Well-known member
I remember when HHC, after ages of knocking UKG, kinda realised they had to tip their hat to it somehow so did a garagey issue with Oxide and Neutrino on the cover. The whole tone of the piece basically said 'yeah we all know UKG is shit but it is kinda big at the moment so we are going to cover it'. They missed the chance to actually big up Wiley, PAUG, HLC, Musical Mob etc in favour of covering some bollox instead and totally damning it with faint praise anyway.
And i remember the review for the PAUG compilation with Wiley and Gods Gift said it was mixed by 'DJs Slimzee, B2B and Geeneus'.
Haha, tossers.
mos dan
fact music
it was made with napa in mind, i feel. either way, i really don't think it's had its day yet.
mistersloane
heavy heavy monster sound
nicked from the rwd site - newham gens from this sunday
http://www.sendspace.com/file/qycids
some of the beats on this are quite stunning. i think tubby plays mostly dubstep now though.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/qycids
some of the beats on this are quite stunning. i think tubby plays mostly dubstep now though.
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Logan Sama
BestThereIsAtWhatIDo
No, you went on RWD and posted abuse. You are an idiot.
Logan Sama
BestThereIsAtWhatIDo
I see the top 7 topics on the forum are Grime.
Youre going to end up with the same problem that instigated the creation of this thread in the first place.
Youre going to end up with the same problem that instigated the creation of this thread in the first place.
mos dan
fact music
B2B is a fuckin bad man pon deckle lol
Interesting about the grime threads innit..
Grievous Angel
Beast of Burden
mistersloane
heavy heavy monster sound
The beats on that Newham Generals show are wicked, I'd like to see D Double do a collab with Britney.
rockypoppy2
wtf?
what the fuck??
mistersloane
heavy heavy monster sound
Trying out sympathetic magic on Grime. I would like to see him and Britney do a duet though.
28 Gun Nice Boy
Well-known member
Does that make Dissensus a grime forum? Have the grimists hijacked the forum or is it because grime is still the most interesting music scene around? Are we putting people not interested in grime off?