I also feel stupid for getting dragged into this but a few things....
@zhao
The UR crew and Mike Banks especially are racists with an axe to grind. If you want me to go into that further i will.
The whole thing of techno being birthed from the "pissed on" etc, is way too over simplified. Its a nice idea but its the sort of thing people would believe if they didn't listen to early detroit music much or they had a political agenda that they wanted to back up.
I'd be careful about taking things people say about jazz and blues and then crowbarring techno into that same set of circumstances. If you listen to Juan Atkins talk about this, or heaven forbid, actually listen to some early detroit techno, the gospel, blues and jazz influences are very light compared to Synth Pop, funk (which i find the hardest to pick up on) and Industrial music. As the years go on, the jazz and gospel (more with chords and progressions than anything explicit like happened in house music) become clearer, because the template sucked into lots and lots of stuff in, as you would expect.
Another point, if this was the PURE music of the oppressed and marginalised, why was it greeted with large indifference by that community? Compare it with hiphop/rap for example, which is definitly more communal in its content/appeal/uptake.
House music, much more fits into the criteria for what you were saying anyway.
If your going to bizarrely self-appoint yourself as the spokesman for the marginalised, maybe you should start there or at hiphop?
Add to that, the music that was happening in Europe (esp. Italo) and other parts of America at the same time that had a similar feel plus the availability of cheap hardware. Where you may have a point is that the state of detroit at the time was a factor. Really bleak, industrial, rundown etc. All of which you can hear Juan Atkins talk about in numerous interviews, videos etc.
Concentrating on any one of those factors over the other is just wrong and the people who do that are most likely motivated by another agenda.
No European i've ever met has called Dusseldorf the home of techno. Nobody worth listening to says that or thinks that in the slightest. Its too extreme. Would you like it if people did say that so you could wheel out your argument?
Plenty of Europeans and Americans I've met have trotted out the "pissed on" argument. I also find that too extreme.
I suppose the only thing that connects the two topics in this thread anymore is that they are both examples where you've gotten stuck on the semantics of a sentence and used it to push a personal agenda, without much consideration for what people were actually trying to say. Its an odd way to interact with people.