Record Shops are History.
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DigitalDjigit
Honky Tonk Woman
I've bought most of my records off Ebay and I never ever had a problem. I never order from across the Atlantic, the shipping is too high. I don't pay more than $5 a record (unless it is something I really really want and even then no more than $10). Since you never know what is going to show up it is very much like going to a regular store. Sometimes you get a steal and then you feel just as chuffed as regular shopping. In addition you do not get your hands dirty and your knees don't hurt from squatting for hours. I don't even look at Gemm, it's ridiculously overpriced (except my store, plug plug: http://jackthebox.gemm.com )
I still enjoy shopping in stores, just came back from New York with a few nice $3 finds.
I still enjoy shopping in stores, just came back from New York with a few nice $3 finds.
redcrescent
Well-known member
But is it your fault the shopkeeper doesn't know his onions? You're not really going to tell him that €2 record is worth fifty, are you? You'll pay two and then do backflips out the shop.polz said:
Don't forget the bad back, sore index and middle fingers and dust-induced asthma. But it makes you feel like a champion.digital djigit said:
boomnoise OTM.
Reading the "Bring the Noise" is sometimes giving me hints on something, the love for the record as a cultural artifact, that seem to be long gone today. History. Like records shops. Those shops were you meet (sometimes nerdy) people who love as you records, who were also meeting point, were behind the counter were not bored and ignorant and indifferent clerks, but music enthusiast like you who loved to talk about new and old music.
Now one, maybe THE, place for this in Italy was DISFUNZIONI MUSICALI in Rome. A shop that was like the Rough Trade for Italy (in the good and in the bad, but the bad is forgotten for today). Now I'm back in Italy for vacation and when in Rome an afternoon at this shop is a mandatory pleasure. So came as a shock today that the shop has closed. And lesser big music shops too, in Milan and Rome. OK. Sign'o'Times. Record Shops Armageddon. History. Maybe someone here can understand why this, insignificant in the run of this universe, is significant for me.
Blame downloading? Yes, sure, but? Blame Amazon? Yes but no, but Amazon and the like are fantastic, especially if you don't live in big cities, or live in forgotten by god countries of the world, and anyway is not piracy. No, that is: cultural artifacts is not COOL. Culture in general is not COOL, seems (i think and live for the contrary, actually, culture for me is COOL and i try to teach this first in my classes). Then Italy is becoming more third world economically, people have little money and records are becoming a LUXURY for most people. You can't blame in Sud America if people buy piracy or download, there is no other choice (and anyway, how much money goes to the artist and how much to pay the cocaine for major record company executives? ok, for the little labels i love this is anyway hell).
Nothing here in my post that hasn't be discussed here and anywhere better and lightly. Goodbye Records Culture. Hello Internet Muzak.
Now one, maybe THE, place for this in Italy was DISFUNZIONI MUSICALI in Rome. A shop that was like the Rough Trade for Italy (in the good and in the bad, but the bad is forgotten for today). Now I'm back in Italy for vacation and when in Rome an afternoon at this shop is a mandatory pleasure. So came as a shock today that the shop has closed. And lesser big music shops too, in Milan and Rome. OK. Sign'o'Times. Record Shops Armageddon. History. Maybe someone here can understand why this, insignificant in the run of this universe, is significant for me.
Blame downloading? Yes, sure, but? Blame Amazon? Yes but no, but Amazon and the like are fantastic, especially if you don't live in big cities, or live in forgotten by god countries of the world, and anyway is not piracy. No, that is: cultural artifacts is not COOL. Culture in general is not COOL, seems (i think and live for the contrary, actually, culture for me is COOL and i try to teach this first in my classes). Then Italy is becoming more third world economically, people have little money and records are becoming a LUXURY for most people. You can't blame in Sud America if people buy piracy or download, there is no other choice (and anyway, how much money goes to the artist and how much to pay the cocaine for major record company executives? ok, for the little labels i love this is anyway hell).
Nothing here in my post that hasn't be discussed here and anywhere better and lightly. Goodbye Records Culture. Hello Internet Muzak.
Jaie Miller
Well-known member
I object.
Options...Imagine the day when there are no more Record shops....none. Play John Lennon, if you must, download it. I would be most dissapointed if this we're to happen, and, if it we're to happen what would replace them??
I like going to clothes shops and trying on a T-shirt every now and again, maybe some jeans. Doesn't mean that I won't press a button and awaken to the product at my doorstep, coz I think dats fun too!! And no doubt the need to dress and stay fresh is much more important than to buy a record. Greensleeves being something thats on my list for purchase.
How about going to your local record shop, and ordering some vinyls to your home, a T-shirt, a computer, a chair, and then setting up your own online record store....That would be fun, no?
There's a new place that's a Record shop and an Internet Cafe, that also sells clothes and DVD's too, it's called Rebel-Music Ltd I set it up with my brother so we could continue on in the spirit of Hip Hop (music culture) which I feel record shoping is a part of. There is a small section for second hand Cds, and records, nothing over board, and people are welcome to come and bring their un-wanted albeit rather good pieces in if they please. We try and keep our DVDs to a rarity even though it seems like the Majors are all over anything new, and anything different, which is difficult, because people like that familar taste like Mc D's.(I'm convinced Mac Donald's doesnt taste nice, just familar) We also try and get as much independent stuff in too. And we need help.
I very much like that there are options for people and pray that record shops shall never all close down, unless there is something funner awaiting and they are taking up all the space, in which case hurry up and close down, so I may too become part of this fun.
I'll admit...American prices are ridiculusly fun to hear about, I can't wait to get out there and do some record shopping, and all the rest.
Options...Imagine the day when there are no more Record shops....none. Play John Lennon, if you must, download it. I would be most dissapointed if this we're to happen, and, if it we're to happen what would replace them??
I like going to clothes shops and trying on a T-shirt every now and again, maybe some jeans. Doesn't mean that I won't press a button and awaken to the product at my doorstep, coz I think dats fun too!! And no doubt the need to dress and stay fresh is much more important than to buy a record. Greensleeves being something thats on my list for purchase.
How about going to your local record shop, and ordering some vinyls to your home, a T-shirt, a computer, a chair, and then setting up your own online record store....That would be fun, no?
There's a new place that's a Record shop and an Internet Cafe, that also sells clothes and DVD's too, it's called Rebel-Music Ltd I set it up with my brother so we could continue on in the spirit of Hip Hop (music culture) which I feel record shoping is a part of. There is a small section for second hand Cds, and records, nothing over board, and people are welcome to come and bring their un-wanted albeit rather good pieces in if they please. We try and keep our DVDs to a rarity even though it seems like the Majors are all over anything new, and anything different, which is difficult, because people like that familar taste like Mc D's.(I'm convinced Mac Donald's doesnt taste nice, just familar) We also try and get as much independent stuff in too. And we need help.
I very much like that there are options for people and pray that record shops shall never all close down, unless there is something funner awaiting and they are taking up all the space, in which case hurry up and close down, so I may too become part of this fun.
I'll admit...American prices are ridiculusly fun to hear about, I can't wait to get out there and do some record shopping, and all the rest.
Martin Dust
Techno Zen Master
Why is that? When does the dream job become the least client facing biz in the world?
i dont know but its an almost universal trait i find (or found) in most record shops i used to go to from tiny specialist places in essex through to the west end shops like bongo, reckless and even record and tape exchange sometimes. once you go often, they usually warm up a bit but most of the time its like its not enough youre giving them your business, you have to (happily?) endure being treated like an idiot for the privilege of being served by such knowledgeable people. sort of like certain restaurants maybe where the waiters are cunts, the food is overpriced etc but its so elite and prestigious you dont mind and even enjoy it. part of the experience or something.
Jaie Miller
Well-known member
I object!
I much enjoy the attitude of what few record shop workers I've come into contact with. I make it my duty to emulate their attitudes and directions.
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Jaie Miller
Well-known member
Thanks 
310c Green Lanes
Palmers Green
London
N13 5TT
www.rebel-music.com
www.myspace.com/rebelmusicinc
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310c Green Lanes
Palmers Green
London
N13 5TT
www.rebel-music.com
www.myspace.com/rebelmusicinc
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Guybrush
Dittohead
In recent days, I have been thinking about how cities will look like in the future when most of the shops that occupy the city-landscape today have moved their business elsewhere or gone bankrupt. In my thoughts, they become either dreary and inhospitable, the city as a mere compound of dwelling-houses and office blocks, or some new, unforeseen movement arises, new communal activities vivifying the abandoned shopping streets. Anyway, I think it has been obvious for a while that retail stores are on their way out. Some have a rougher time than others, but the general tendency is there. More than anything, I think this is explained by a generational shift in attitudes towards over-the-counter shopping, which young people find less fruitful than older people do—mainly because the Internet offers such a wealth of choices in comparison.
Poisonous Dart
Lone Swordsman
Yep...
I'm actually going to do a piece on this for my blog on Monday called "The Last Days Of The Record Store" about my experiences working for Tower Records and some other Boston chains from 1998-2001. One.
I'm actually going to do a piece on this for my blog on Monday called "The Last Days Of The Record Store" about my experiences working for Tower Records and some other Boston chains from 1998-2001. One.
Jaie Miller
Well-known member
Wow. Cool, I respect your blog, from what I've seen of it. And Guybrush:
"they become either dreary and inhospitable, the city as a mere compound of dwelling-houses and office blocks, or some new, unforeseen movement arises, new communal activities vivifying the abandoned shopping streets"
^
That was like the perfect piece of poetry.
Agreed to about the young people finding over the counter activity less fruitful. People walk in to the shop sometimes like...'what is there to do?'
Jaie Miller
Well-known member
I'm thinking in the event of a closure, we'll turn the space into a paint warehouse, (don't bite this idea please) What we'll do is create a space where any mannor of being, earthling or otherwise can come a enjoy a splash of painting, there shall be all white walls and buckets of paint, and people can come and hurls huge buckets of paint on the walls, and then create art. The walls will have sprinklers at the top which will wash off the paint from the walls only after a great digital camera takes a photo of the created art, and thus saves it onto a computer for digital enhancement or printing.
Other options include a scream warehouse, (all soundproofed) where people come and SCREAM at the top of their lungs!!! and let out years of tension and past aggressions. Thus creating a safer and less repressive socitety, one that is open to communication and not the avoidance of so calle true thoughts...orsmth
Someone told me about a place where each morning there is a gathering where people laugh,
I thought that was quite nice...
..........I'm crazy.....Back to the shop....
Rebel-Music Ltd was funded by the Princes Trust and has hopes of E-commerce activity soon.
Other options include a scream warehouse, (all soundproofed) where people come and SCREAM at the top of their lungs!!! and let out years of tension and past aggressions. Thus creating a safer and less repressive socitety, one that is open to communication and not the avoidance of so calle true thoughts...orsmth
Someone told me about a place where each morning there is a gathering where people laugh,
I thought that was quite nice...
..........I'm crazy.....Back to the shop....
Rebel-Music Ltd was funded by the Princes Trust and has hopes of E-commerce activity soon.
Guybrush
Dittohead
Sounds great!
Another positive aspect of people increasingly using the Internet for their consumptive needs is that I hope it will lead to human interactions’ being centred less around shopping and more around ... interactions.
U-Basstard
tragic mix
R.I.P Pelicanneck
Jaie Miller
Well-known member
?? What does this mean??
crackerjack
Well-known member
Pelican Neck is (or presumably now was) a shop in Manchester, the non-cyber version of Boomkat.