the rap canon needs rewriting

[craner]

Crowley, more questions.

1) What is the story behind True Master being arrested for sexual assault in 2011?

2) Is it true that U-God got the hump over the production on Golden Arms: Redemption?

3) Are Hell Razah's solo albums any good?

 

[CrowleyHead]

Honestly couldn't give you an answer to the three questions.

I will say that yeah, if you look around, you see Jim Jarmusch and obviously Tarantino all throwing money at Rza for useless little projects. He's very good at finding who will support him like that.

 

[mistersloane]

That's a bit harsh Crowley! Ghost Dog is a brilliant film, and I personally enjoyed the Man with the Iron Fists.

 

[Patrick Swayze]

No-wang man ain't got nuttin ta fuck wid.

lol

 

[CrowleyHead]

That's a bit harsh Crowley! Ghost Dog is a brilliant film, and I personally enjoyed the Man with the Iron Fists.

Ghost Dog is OK... It's doesn't hold up that well for me anymore. But Rza's scoring has always been rather "..... :/ *snigger*"

 

[mistersloane]

Ghost Dog is OK... It's doesn't hold up that well for me anymore. But Rza's scoring has always been rather "..... :/ *snigger*"

hahaha do you think so? I watched it again (again, again) recently and was surprised at how good it is. I like - no, love - the fact that RZA's tracks on that really sound like he phoned them in. It's the loooosest film soundtrack ever, and I love that about it.

But yeah, know what you mean. The Tarantino stuff isn't good, he's not very good when he thinks he should cater to a specific type/genre.

 

[craner]

The bit when 'From Then 'Till Now' comes on is the best part of the film. Other than that, an aimless lo-fi thing. Quite liked the score, though.

 

[sufi]

Who has the Largest Vocabulary in Hip Hop
http://rappers.mdaniels.com.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com/

 

[CrowleyHead]

*swallows tar*

 

[droid]

Who has the Largest Vocabulary in Hip Hop
http://rappers.mdaniels.com.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com/

Vocab doesnt = quality, but lol at Kanye all the same.

 

[luka]

while we wait for crowleys list to arrive

 

[luka]

i want to see crowley draw up a canon.

we've been asking since 2011

 

[sadmanbarty]

i just googled a couple and neither had nelly, so there's a glaring ommision in the rap canon. he began the rap of the 21st century.

 

[sadmanbarty]

wayne needs to be taken down a peg or two i think. on the other hand 'lolipop' deserved a big 10th anniversary write-up in pitchfork and couple of paragraphs under 'legacy' on the wikipedia page.

 

[sadmanbarty]

it invented the 2010's

 

[sadmanbarty]

flockaveli's a tough one. really zeitgeist defining at the time, but feels completely unimportant in retrospect.

 

[sadmanbarty]

for about 15 years it's not made sense to canonise rap in terms of albums. that was a 90's phenomena.

 

[sadmanbarty]

wayne is the thelonious monk of rap.

(i'm proud of that one)

 

[CrowleyHead]

flockaveli's a tough one. really zeitgeist defining at the time, but feels completely unimportant in retrospect.

Flockavelli is about as equally important as Lil Jon's production streak was, which given how both got thoroughly erased in relevance once completed feels tragic.

 

[sadmanbarty]

what part of lil jon's productions have become irrelevant? it feels like the dna of everything.