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I'm quite capable of making rooms an 8 or 9 through sheer creativity
Decluttering
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The problem with that clutter scale is that cluttering's only really a problem when one begins to single-handedly push one's communal workplace through the ratings; the bedroom is a safe space for clutter
Ping ponging between 1 and 2. The AI's really putting me off, though. Think I said this before, but the life-changing event for me was watching The Hunt For Britain's Paedophiles. Every single one of them had a cluttered, messy home: it's as big a 'nonce tell' as liking Star Trek or getting higher than a B in maths. After that, I realised all those "everything in its place!" types weren't just being pedantic wankers.
Still, I agree with Quentin Crisp about dust not killing you, and Silvia Federici about housework being a fucking chore. I have to do it through gritted teeth, repeating to myself "...think of the nonces..." Would happily pay a little old Romanian lady to do it, to be brutally honest.
I can barely see it but looks like Carlos The Jackal and Yoko Ono's lovechild.
WashYourHands
Cat Malogen
too lol
sufi
lala
this sounds like insight gleaned from stifling hours behind ppe in utmost squalor
A word clot/clog is a stubborn unpleasant lump. Most people do not enjoy dealing with word materials. Filing and paperwork are regarded as boring. But, central for everyone is that those word things are part of being a responsible adult. Throwing them away, particularly without reading them completely, feels childish and irresponsible. So they pile up. Keeping post but not opening or dealing with it is another common feature of a disordered household. Both anger and fear can contribute to this.
We have sat with clients and processed through three years of post. They are often very surprised at how much of it is junk. Many of these clients have arranged direct debits for their bills. This is a survival choice. Studies have shown that compulsive hoarders often end up homeless. Not reading post, means that the person does not know when bills have come due or notices issued. This will eventually result in eviction.
Hoarders with piles of paper are not hoarding paper in the way that a bottle hoarder is hoarding bottles. They are hoarding the words. This is different. Friends and family see a pile of old newspapers. They and the researchers describe old newspapers as ‘paper’. The word hoarder sees a pile of words. Is there the funniest article ever written in that pile? Is there information I need to know about my next holiday? The list of possibilities is endless. In order to be sure, the hoarder has to read every single word. Then having read it, they then say ‘I need to save this in case I need to read it again’.
It is this that makes it so hard to process. How can one place a value on all those words. What wasn’t important yesterday, may be important tomorrow. It would take a very long time to read all the words. Many times it would be more years than the person has left. We have a number of clutter clients who do suffer from word hoarding. They will keep everything the bank ever sends them, all their old magazines etc. Clearing their old clothes or bric-a-brac is comparatively easy, they can often tell at a glance whether they want it or not. To process words they have to be read. With clutter clients there are a number of strategies:
Given the prevalence of word hoarding among compulsive hoarders, it would be appropriate for researchers to study the efficacy of books and writing things down as part of treatment. We encounter many books and articles on de-cluttering in the homes of our clutter clients. In one extreme case, there were 40 books. The client referred to them as her ‘pornography’. Clutter clients can see buying the book as solving the problem. Equally, buying storage solutions can be seen as an alternative to doing the filing.
from this gruesome website that requires a trigger warning for the faint of heart or weak of stomach for appalling alchohol-induced interior design strategies, and i suspect they have avoided photographing the very worst spots
www.compulsive-hoarding.org
Word Hoarding
In the lists of what hoarders commonly keep paper is one of the most frequent. These are paper things: newspapers, magazines, paper packaging, books. What do they have in common? Words. Words and text are the most common way we have of remembering things. We write lists. We keep letters. We re-read books.A word clot/clog is a stubborn unpleasant lump. Most people do not enjoy dealing with word materials. Filing and paperwork are regarded as boring. But, central for everyone is that those word things are part of being a responsible adult. Throwing them away, particularly without reading them completely, feels childish and irresponsible. So they pile up. Keeping post but not opening or dealing with it is another common feature of a disordered household. Both anger and fear can contribute to this.
We have sat with clients and processed through three years of post. They are often very surprised at how much of it is junk. Many of these clients have arranged direct debits for their bills. This is a survival choice. Studies have shown that compulsive hoarders often end up homeless. Not reading post, means that the person does not know when bills have come due or notices issued. This will eventually result in eviction.
Hoarders with piles of paper are not hoarding paper in the way that a bottle hoarder is hoarding bottles. They are hoarding the words. This is different. Friends and family see a pile of old newspapers. They and the researchers describe old newspapers as ‘paper’. The word hoarder sees a pile of words. Is there the funniest article ever written in that pile? Is there information I need to know about my next holiday? The list of possibilities is endless. In order to be sure, the hoarder has to read every single word. Then having read it, they then say ‘I need to save this in case I need to read it again’.
It is this that makes it so hard to process. How can one place a value on all those words. What wasn’t important yesterday, may be important tomorrow. It would take a very long time to read all the words. Many times it would be more years than the person has left. We have a number of clutter clients who do suffer from word hoarding. They will keep everything the bank ever sends them, all their old magazines etc. Clearing their old clothes or bric-a-brac is comparatively easy, they can often tell at a glance whether they want it or not. To process words they have to be read. With clutter clients there are a number of strategies:
- Newspapers stop being ‘new’ when you keep them
- Newspapers are kept in libraries.
- Much of this information is available on line. Ask yourself, when you want the answer to a question do you read all the things you have or do you Google
- Lots of information is time sensitive: special offers go out of date, the council has new rules, the bank has changed their terms etc.
Given the prevalence of word hoarding among compulsive hoarders, it would be appropriate for researchers to study the efficacy of books and writing things down as part of treatment. We encounter many books and articles on de-cluttering in the homes of our clutter clients. In one extreme case, there were 40 books. The client referred to them as her ‘pornography’. Clutter clients can see buying the book as solving the problem. Equally, buying storage solutions can be seen as an alternative to doing the filing.
from this gruesome website that requires a trigger warning for the faint of heart or weak of stomach for appalling alchohol-induced interior design strategies, and i suspect they have avoided photographing the very worst spots
Word Hoarding | UK Hoarded House Clearance
In the lists of what hoarders commonly keep paper is one of the most frequent. These are paper things: newspapers, magazines, paper packaging, books. What do they have in common? Words.
www.compulsive-hoarding.org
mixed_biscuits
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Most of their clutter seems to be quite literally garbage.
Of course, that could be topped by living in a trailer and storing buckets of one's effluvia because it's too much bother to visit the outdoor toilet.
Of course, that could be topped by living in a trailer and storing buckets of one's effluvia because it's too much bother to visit the outdoor toilet.
WashYourHands
Cat Malogen
this sounds like insight gleaned from stifling hours behind ppe in utmost squalor
Word Hoarding
In the lists of what hoarders commonly keep paper is one of the most frequent. These are paper things: newspapers, magazines, paper packaging, books. What do they have in common? Words. Words and text are the most common way we have of remembering things. We write lists. We keep letters. We re-read books.
A word clot/clog is a stubborn unpleasant lump. Most people do not enjoy dealing with word materials. Filing and paperwork are regarded as boring. But, central for everyone is that those word things are part of being a responsible adult. Throwing them away, particularly without reading them completely, feels childish and irresponsible. So they pile up. Keeping post but not opening or dealing with it is another common feature of a disordered household. Both anger and fear can contribute to this.
We have sat with clients and processed through three years of post. They are often very surprised at how much of it is junk. Many of these clients have arranged direct debits for their bills. This is a survival choice. Studies have shown that compulsive hoarders often end up homeless. Not reading post, means that the person does not know when bills have come due or notices issued. This will eventually result in eviction.
Hoarders with piles of paper are not hoarding paper in the way that a bottle hoarder is hoarding bottles. They are hoarding the words. This is different. Friends and family see a pile of old newspapers. They and the researchers describe old newspapers as ‘paper’. The word hoarder sees a pile of words. Is there the funniest article ever written in that pile? Is there information I need to know about my next holiday? The list of possibilities is endless. In order to be sure, the hoarder has to read every single word. Then having read it, they then say ‘I need to save this in case I need to read it again’.
It is this that makes it so hard to process. How can one place a value on all those words. What wasn’t important yesterday, may be important tomorrow. It would take a very long time to read all the words. Many times it would be more years than the person has left. We have a number of clutter clients who do suffer from word hoarding. They will keep everything the bank ever sends them, all their old magazines etc. Clearing their old clothes or bric-a-brac is comparatively easy, they can often tell at a glance whether they want it or not. To process words they have to be read. With clutter clients there are a number of strategies:
All these things are true and may help some people, but for a full-fledged word hoarder, they will have little or no effect. A word hoarder needs to let go of the words. The paper is just the supporting medium.
- Newspapers stop being ‘new’ when you keep them
- Newspapers are kept in libraries.
- Much of this information is available on line. Ask yourself, when you want the answer to a question do you read all the things you have or do you Google
- Lots of information is time sensitive: special offers go out of date, the council has new rules, the bank has changed their terms etc.
Given the prevalence of word hoarding among compulsive hoarders, it would be appropriate for researchers to study the efficacy of books and writing things down as part of treatment. We encounter many books and articles on de-cluttering in the homes of our clutter clients. In one extreme case, there were 40 books. The client referred to them as her ‘pornography’. Clutter clients can see buying the book as solving the problem. Equally, buying storage solutions can be seen as an alternative to doing the filing.
from this gruesome website that requires a trigger warning for the faint of heart or weak of stomach for appalling alchohol-induced interior design strategies, and i suspect they have avoided photographing the very worst spots
Word Hoarding | UK Hoarded House Clearance
In the lists of what hoarders commonly keep paper is one of the most frequent. These are paper things: newspapers, magazines, paper packaging, books. What do they have in common? Words.
TV guides, so many memories
Clip from: Bart Gets an Elephant
You never know when an old calendar might come in handy. Sure, it's not 1985 right now, but who knows what tomorrow will bring? And these TV Guides. So many memories. "Gomer upsets Sergeant Carter." Oh, I'll never forget that episode. Pyle! Shazam!
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IdleRich
IdleRich
The Bottle Imp, The Monkey's Paw etc etc, always twist around and bite you in the arse.
IdleRich
IdleRich
Probably they want you to get rid of all your DVDs so you gotta hire things you never own from Netflix etc - if they can tell people it's spiritually good for them to buy in to their business model so much the better.
IdleRich
IdleRich
Same. Thought I was messy but I draw the line long before 2.
These days anyway, was different when I was about 23.
IdleRich
IdleRich
I notice you never replied to the question about whether you had ever had sex. Maybe if you took down the "No girls allowed" sign from your door, washed the jizz stains off the sheets, walls, ceilings etc and just generally tidied up a bit, one day you might be able to answer in the affirmative... maybe.
IdleRich
IdleRich
I think we all go through a similar stage. I remember living in a place where the kitchen was piled to the ceiling with dirty plates. The only light was by opening the microwave or fridge, the living room was the same, some spare ribs lying on the floor - my friend said "that's a relief, I thought a cat had wandered in and died" etc etc walls so thin you could see your breath, broken toilet so had to use a nearby pub, random people sleeping in my bed when I came in.
Mr. Tea
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Tidy your room! Wash the spunk of your walls!
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I remember during this period my roomates threw a party, but I didnt want to participate- i just stayed in my room and tried to sleep. During the party an old friend came up to say hi but when they saw the state of my room they were clearly startled and taken aback and I remember thinking in that moment 'this is what we do it for'