The Depopulation Agenda

[Mr. Tea]

The Anti-Tea Axis of hmgovt, biscuits and Wash.

It's bizarre, but something about this forum seems to attract men in late middle age who are TOTALLY FINE, no seriously, like *really* well-adjusted and happy, honestly, with an absolutely great life that they're 100% satisfied with, but for some reason enjoy pretending to be compelled to behave like a seven-year-old who isn't getting attention from his parents.

 

[Clinamenic]

All those cunts would be hard-pressed to be the 'nemesis' of, say, a sandwich.

It's bizarre, but something about this forum seems to attract men in late middle age who are TOTALLY FINE, no seriously, like *really* well-adjusted and happy, honestly, with an absolutely great life that they're 100% satisfied with, but for some reason enjoy pretending to be compelled to behave like a seven-year-old who isn't getting attention from his parents.

Or perhaps they all just fancy you?

 

[Mr. Tea]

Or perhaps they all just fancy you?

Well I am devastatingly attractive, so there's that.

 

[0bleak]

So much for the depopulation agenda:

One week after Elon Musk talked about an ‘underpopulation crisis,’ the U.N. says the world population is set to continue growing until 2100

Elon Musk has been warning about underpopulation for years, but a new U.N. report paints a different picture on population growth.

fortune.com

I don't think there is an agenda.
At any rate, what I wanted to say, and I can't read the article, beyond a few lines, is that birth rates are already dropping in many places, and "developing" countries are also showing that they are on target for the same thing happening as happened in richer countries, but at a faster rate than previously happened with richer countries as when they started having lower birth rates below replacement.
I also did see that the article said that that it will at least be a few decades before population collapse poses a problem.
Since I can't read beyond that, I'm wondering if they are taking the world as a whole, because even before populations "collapse", it will still look like the same number of people, but the problem in richer countries is that it's an inverted pyramid with aging populations at the top composing the largest number of people.

 

[0bleak]

you have to seperate ideas from the people you imagine might hold them

I'm just quoting this for posterity.

 

[sus]

I don't think there is an agenda.
At any rate, what I wanted to say, and I can't read the article, beyond a few lines, is that birth rates are already dropping in many places, and "developing" countries are also showing that they are on target for the same thing happening as happened in richer countries, but at a faster rate than previously happened with richer countries as when they started having lower birth rates below replacement.
I also did see that the article said that that it will at least be a few decades before population collapse poses a problem.
Since I can't read beyond that, I'm wondering if they are taking the world as a whole, because even before populations "collapse", it will still look like the same number of people, but the problem in richer countries is that it's an inverted pyramid with aging populations at the top composing the largest number of people.

Yes the article is in the common editorial genre of "thinking it's dunking on opponents while actually being several steps behind everyone else in the conversation"

The birth rate problems in Japan extending to other countries as they liberalize and develop has been established, Newsweek-level discourse since I was a child, if it weren't for Elon Musk taking the mic to repeat what everyone has known since 1995, I doubt anyone would play such silly games of feigned ignorance

 

[sus]

Neoliberalism may be an evolutionary dead-end. The human race will not die out. But some other ideology capable of getting its followers to breed will eventually replace any belief system can't (or which, like American liberalism, actively discourages breeding).

 

[thirdform]

I don't understand opposition to the concept that the Earth is a finite system and that all population growth is unsustainable in the long run. We're already testing the limits of the ecosystem to support the population we have.

What's the alternative proposition? Unlimited growth forever, or rather, until ecosystem collapse forces a natural correction?

I'm usually supportive of you sticking the boot in Luke and your repartee with biscuits and govt is entertaining, like that Aussie bird who sang addicted to bass, but this is just about the most patronising liberal delusion crap you've come out with, in the history of mr. tea, as such.

 

[thirdform]

communism is horizontalist where as capitalism is verticalist. this is sufficient grounds to lock the thread. question answered. Le Corbusier will be confined to the 8th level of hell in the annals of history.

 

[sus]

i dont think you have to reject the concept of earth as a finite system to be suspicious of the elite's depopulation agenda.

It's not a finite system it's not a closed system it's an open system and more energy than we could possibly capture pours into it every second

 

[sus]

173,000 terawatts
A total of 173,000 terawatts (trillions of watts) of solar energy strikes the Earth continuously. That's more than 10,000 times the world's total energy use

 

[sus]

This of course is not mentioning anything about atomic energy which is infinite

Nor is it mentioning that earth is far from the only rock in the galaxy

There are perhaps specific mineral elements whose natural abundance will decline and we will end up synthesizing them, but in terms of general material and energy resources, there is no meaningful limit on growth

 

[sus]

communism is horizontalist where as capitalism is verticalist. this is sufficient grounds to lock the thread. question answered. Le Corbusier will be confined to the 8th level of hell in the annals of history.

Marxist ideology is transhumanist ie vertical in that it seems to replace man with God. Mcluhan showed this

 

[mixed_biscuits]

Driesch made organisms half the size, but twice as many, by burning away half the cells at an embryonic stage. If we are running out of space, just do that.

 

[Mr. Tea]

I'm usually supportive of you sticking the boot in Luke and your repartee with biscuits and govt is entertaining, like that Aussie bird who sang addicted to bass, but this is just about the most patronising liberal delusion crap you've come out with, in the history of mr. tea, as such.

What's delusional about it? Or liberal, for that matter? The amount of extra carbon being released into the atmosphere or water being extracted from an aquifer is what it is, regardless of whether you or anyone else is a liberal, conservative, socialist or whatever.

 

[chava]

communism is horizontalist where as capitalism is verticalist. this is sufficient grounds to lock the thread. question answered. Le Corbusier will be confined to the 8th level of hell in the annals of history.

But then what is this, then

 

[Mr. Tea]

But then what is this, then

It's what you get when you cross Blade Runner with an airport departure lounge Wetherspoons.

 

[thirdform]

Marxist ideology is transhumanist ie vertical in that it seems to replace man with God. Mcluhan showed this

This isn't about the tired old question of what or what doesn't constitute ideology but the despotic inroads necessary to reduce wasteful and irrational (over)production and a more even distribution of the population across the surface of the earth.

 

[version]

a more even distribution of the population across the surface of the earth.

Would the geography of the earth's surface allow for that?

 

[Mr. Tea]

Would the geography of the earth's surface allow for that?

Well the Saudis - ever the environmentalists - are taking the lead with this definitely totally green and sustainable futuristic city they're building in the middle of the Arabian desert that certainly isn't being constructed and run by slave laborers or anything like that.