Yeah, Red Hot Car is a cut above. I think if I was to abandon my unreasoning aversion to the 'pusher, I could probably get into the unbreaks material- I remember hearing some ominous semi rock on Ultravisitor. Its the misuse of breaks and edits that gets me - additionally, he's the Steve Vai of DSP plugins.
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the song is "red hot car" but of course he says "red hot c*ck"
Seems I find his use of the Jungle vernacular very intense, imaginative, and detailed in a good way... and that others do not.
Can anyone point me towards Jungle Beat Science that is more interesting, detailed, and imaginative than Squarepusher's?
the song is "red hot car" but of course he says "red hot c*ck"
Seems I find his use of the Jungle vernacular very intense, imaginative, and detailed in a good way... and that others do not.
Can anyone point me towards Jungle Beat Science that is more interesting, detailed, and imaginative than Squarepusher's?
I really rate the Joint 2. its a moving shadow/suburban base collaboration---
http://www.discogs.com/release/157302
If you see it-buy immediately
Its got a similar mix of hyper edited breaks and vocals to a lot of squarepusher/snares material- but IMO has more vitality. A lot of the moving shadow releases from 1994/1995 are absolutely amazing.
http://www.discogs.com/release/157302
If you see it-buy immediately
Its got a similar mix of hyper edited breaks and vocals to a lot of squarepusher/snares material- but IMO has more vitality. A lot of the moving shadow releases from 1994/1995 are absolutely amazing.
Slothrop
Tight but Polite
Yeah, exactly.mms said:
Also true. Actually, a lot of more recent drill oriented stuff has been leaving me cold - basically, since they've go good at it, I think, and it's lost that blatantly cheap electronic sound that gave it a peverse sort of soul. To get back on topic, a lot of Squarepusher's recent stuff (although the title track of Do You Know... is a killer), Venetian Snares' more synthy less breakbeaty stuff... ugh.
Hate
I wont single out any particular artitsts here (except for MIA and Basement Jaxx), but off the top of my head here's the stuff I LOVE to HATE:
Progressive House - Progressive Breaks - Anything “Goth”, “Industrial”, etc - Most Grime - “Dirty South” Rap – Reggaeton – “Tech” step (and most post ‘96 era D&B) – Boring Neo-Soul & Nu-Jazz – “Glitchy” IDM –ESG wanna-be bands – Trance – Most post ’92 Hip-Hop (with many notable exceptions) – Mid-late 1980’s American Indie Rock – Grunge - World Beat – Fake coffee table Bossa Nova – Anything sold at Starbucks – Nu-Metal – 33% of all Dubstep (the other 66% is good to great!) – Big-Beat – 88% of Avant-Noise – Austrailian “Rock” – Downtempo “electronica” that samples Indian music – Downtempo – “Wallpaper” Muzak House (Deep, “funky” Brazilian sampling stuff - played as backdrop in “trendy” urban neo-mod cocktail bars) - Quiet Storm & Smooth Jazz.
There's more, but I don't have time....
I wont single out any particular artitsts here (except for MIA and Basement Jaxx), but off the top of my head here's the stuff I LOVE to HATE:
Progressive House - Progressive Breaks - Anything “Goth”, “Industrial”, etc - Most Grime - “Dirty South” Rap – Reggaeton – “Tech” step (and most post ‘96 era D&B) – Boring Neo-Soul & Nu-Jazz – “Glitchy” IDM –ESG wanna-be bands – Trance – Most post ’92 Hip-Hop (with many notable exceptions) – Mid-late 1980’s American Indie Rock – Grunge - World Beat – Fake coffee table Bossa Nova – Anything sold at Starbucks – Nu-Metal – 33% of all Dubstep (the other 66% is good to great!) – Big-Beat – 88% of Avant-Noise – Austrailian “Rock” – Downtempo “electronica” that samples Indian music – Downtempo – “Wallpaper” Muzak House (Deep, “funky” Brazilian sampling stuff - played as backdrop in “trendy” urban neo-mod cocktail bars) - Quiet Storm & Smooth Jazz.
There's more, but I don't have time....
WOEBOT said:
Just got his latest CD a few days ago - lost interest on track 3 and haven't been back since. I'm actually slightly dreading listening to the rest of it, but feel obligated since I shelled out the money. Used to be a fan, but his bag of (samples) tricks is wearing a little thin. Boring, po-faced stuff...Hate the live band too.
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foret
Guest
the 'most' descriptor is silly - 98% of everything is shit
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
All I can say is...
....Coldplay (my university's most famous graduates, God help us),
Travis,
Keane,
Ash,
Stereophonics,
just about every and and band with a name starting with the word 'The'...
...and so i goes on. Surely not a controversial choice, but the WHOLE LOT of sickeningly bland 'indie' bands infecting us at the moment. Christ, I saw The Thrills o TV not long ago, and they were about as thrilling as a heavily-sedated Dido. Fuck.
Not an especially inspired post, but I'm rather drunk and listening to Ministry. So there.
....Coldplay (my university's most famous graduates, God help us),
Travis,
Keane,
Ash,
Stereophonics,
just about every and and band with a name starting with the word 'The'...
...and so i goes on. Surely not a controversial choice, but the WHOLE LOT of sickeningly bland 'indie' bands infecting us at the moment. Christ, I saw The Thrills o TV not long ago, and they were about as thrilling as a heavily-sedated Dido. Fuck.
Not an especially inspired post, but I'm rather drunk and listening to Ministry. So there.
Slothrop
Tight but Polite
"Check these out," says Matthew Herbert aka Dr Rockit, Radio Boy, modern-day big-band leader, seductive deep-house purveyor, moments after answering the door to his studiocum- pad in seaside Whitstable. He's brandishing two small, slightly dented torpedo shells. "They're from Iraq. I just got them on eBay." And with that, he taps the shells together, producing a resonant, mellifluous ping.Novabass said:
(from the Grauniad, the other week)
vs
This week, Nathan scours eBay for a fragment of cruise missile shrapnel which he intends to tap with a drumstick and use as the sampled backbone for an anti-war bootmash of Edwin Starr, Olivia Newton-John, Rageh Omarr and The Kills.
(from TV Go Home, ages ago).
Aaargh. And don't get me started on the 'personal contract for the creation of music'... or Whitstable arrivistas, come to that.
mistersloane
heavy heavy monster sound
Twenty four pages and not a mention of JONI FUCKING MITCHELL. How can you have a haters page without her?
for me Joni Mitchell might fall under the "don't get" rather than the hate list.
another person who i DON'T GET AT ALL: Carla Bley.
I love almost everything her husband did to death, but what is that stuff she recorded? and often with amazing players, opera jazz? avant musical theater?
another person who i DON'T GET AT ALL: Carla Bley.
I love almost everything her husband did to death, but what is that stuff she recorded? and often with amazing players, opera jazz? avant musical theater?
mistersloane
heavy heavy monster sound
There's nothing to get with Joni Mitchell, she's simply an aberration and should be tried for crimes against aesthetics.
MankyFiver
Well-known member
do you not like joni's teeth?
swears
preppy-kei
I hate it when pop/rnb acts that make great sequencer-driven studio records (Kelis for instance) play live, or on a TV show like Jools Holland or something and feel compelled to have a live band onstage. These back-up groups always sound remarkably similar, particularly the brass sections, it may well be the same group of muso hacks every time. Artists shouldn't feel scared of sticking on a DAT and prancing around with some hired dancers. Never did Madonna any harm.
mistersloane
heavy heavy monster sound
On a necklace round my neck maybe
MankyFiver
Well-known member
Agreed, plus when an act DOES play to a DAT/DJ pretending to play the backing track as a live performance on TV, the track is always too quiet. WHY?
mistersloane
heavy heavy monster sound
Weave it into the shape of a 7 inch record and make her children listen to it
mistersloane
heavy heavy monster sound
Shudders
Sufjan, Björk, Prince Line Up for Joni Mitchell Tribute
Prior to this moment, only in our wildest and sauciest dreams could we picture Sufjan Stevens, Björk, and Prince rolling around together.
Nonesuch Records, however, has made our dreams a reality; the label recently announced that the three aforementioned artists-- along with Sarah McLachlan, Elvis Costello, Emmylou Harris, James Taylor, and tasteful others-- will be featured on a forthcoming Joni Mitchell tribute record, aptly titled A Tribute to Joni Mitchell. It's due out this spring.
In addition, Billboard.com reports that Mitchell recently spent a few weeks recording new material in Los Angeles, though exactly what she plans to do with the new tunes has not been confirmed.
A Tribute to Joni Mitchell tracklist:
01 Sufjan Stevens - "Free Man in Paris"
02 Björk - "Boho Dance"
03 Caetano Veloso - "Dreamland"
04 Brad Mehldau - "Don't Interrupt the Sorrow"
05 Cassandra Wilson - "For the Roses"
06 Prince - "A Case of U"
07 Sarah McLachlan - "Blue"
08 Annie Lennox - "Ladies of the Canyon"
09 Emmylou Harris - Magdalena Laundries"
10 Elvis Costello - "Edith and the Kingpin"
11 k.d. lang - "Help Me"
12 James Taylor - "River"
Sufjan, Björk, Prince Line Up for Joni Mitchell Tribute
Prior to this moment, only in our wildest and sauciest dreams could we picture Sufjan Stevens, Björk, and Prince rolling around together.
Nonesuch Records, however, has made our dreams a reality; the label recently announced that the three aforementioned artists-- along with Sarah McLachlan, Elvis Costello, Emmylou Harris, James Taylor, and tasteful others-- will be featured on a forthcoming Joni Mitchell tribute record, aptly titled A Tribute to Joni Mitchell. It's due out this spring.
In addition, Billboard.com reports that Mitchell recently spent a few weeks recording new material in Los Angeles, though exactly what she plans to do with the new tunes has not been confirmed.
A Tribute to Joni Mitchell tracklist:
01 Sufjan Stevens - "Free Man in Paris"
02 Björk - "Boho Dance"
03 Caetano Veloso - "Dreamland"
04 Brad Mehldau - "Don't Interrupt the Sorrow"
05 Cassandra Wilson - "For the Roses"
06 Prince - "A Case of U"
07 Sarah McLachlan - "Blue"
08 Annie Lennox - "Ladies of the Canyon"
09 Emmylou Harris - Magdalena Laundries"
10 Elvis Costello - "Edith and the Kingpin"
11 k.d. lang - "Help Me"
12 James Taylor - "River"