pattycakes_
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Which leads to a different experience for the viewer. Both experiences are valid
How open are you?
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Even the controlled one can't seem to help it though. Beckett was clearly a very self-contained person, but he still felt the pull to tell people about himself.
pattycakes_
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Circular discussion alert. I'm not disagreeing with you
I'm just saying for eg, Joyce vs Beckett is two types of open
I'm just saying for eg, Joyce vs Beckett is two types of open
pattycakes_
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Not that hard to grasp though is it.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
I suppose an exception would be a true 'outsider artist' whose house is found to be full of crazy sculptures or paintings after they die, which nobody else even knew about. But they're obviously very few and far between.
That artist is still creating something though. They're still running the risk of acquiring an audience.
pattycakes_
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Right and you could easily imagine the ultimate act of withdrawal would be to not put anything out there. Well shit, looks like I've out Becketted Becket. Eat my dust, Sam!
Clarice Lispector seemed quite similar to Beckett, similar suspicion of language and inclination for reduction:
Lispector was phobic about the dilution of language through overuse: “Writing too much and too often can contaminate the word.” Indeed, the obligation of having to write—together with the pervasive sense of the inadequacy of words—is an idée fixe in the crônicas, and Lispector repeatedly harangued herself for it: “If I could, I would leave my place on this page blank: replete with a resounding silence,” marks a May 1971 entry. The distrust of the merely documentary function of writing also reflects a wider anxiety about language’s sense-making abilities. “I don’t know how to ‘clothe an idea in words,’” she wrote in a piece a year earlier. “When I am writing, I feel again what is apparently the only paradoxical certainty: that what gets in the way of writing is having to use words.”
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
You must have put some tunes on SoundCloud or similar at some point though, right?
At any rate, I've got some of your MP3s on my laptop. So there!
I suppose with those two you could actually flip it and argue they weren't closed off, they felt language wasn't open enough for them to fully express themselves. What looks like a retreat is in fact an advance. They're attacking the language in an effort to reach what's beyond it.
WashYourHands
Cat Malogen
Coil would talk music but never openly discuss magic. Who wants to reveal their muse too much to any old inquirer?
You can look at openness as a psychological metric ie as a trait. You can look at borders, eg conservative levels of disgust at perceived levels where immigration’s role in changing a body-politic‘s ethnic spectrum through border policy is front and centre being just one
You can meet people who depict themselves as open minded but who’ll prove more and more conservative as you actually get to know them. *Puts on Jordan Peterson’s voice* and talk about psychedelics and moving a personality trait one % point further towards more openness but you’ll find psychedelic totalitarianism too
People can appear open but only by getting to know them irl will you get a true register of where they’re at
You can look at openness as a psychological metric ie as a trait. You can look at borders, eg conservative levels of disgust at perceived levels where immigration’s role in changing a body-politic‘s ethnic spectrum through border policy is front and centre being just one
You can meet people who depict themselves as open minded but who’ll prove more and more conservative as you actually get to know them. *Puts on Jordan Peterson’s voice* and talk about psychedelics and moving a personality trait one % point further towards more openness but you’ll find psychedelic totalitarianism too
People can appear open but only by getting to know them irl will you get a true register of where they’re at
WashYourHands
Cat Malogen
It’s how you make friends
Last thing you need are friends alongside you in life who dither. Pause for thought = yes, dither endlessly because a new console game is out = get tae fuck
Last thing you need are friends alongside you in life who dither. Pause for thought = yes, dither endlessly because a new console game is out = get tae fuck
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
Like a gash.
pattycakes_
Can turn naughty
Burroughs was definitely on the Beckett end of the spectrum but very occasionally hinted at wishing he could be more open. I wonder with that type of demeanour, like you ended up like that one way or another, does it ever feel like a cage or whatever.
pattycakes_
Can turn naughty
he wrote this close to the end
pattycakes_
Can turn naughty
I would say being open has a lot to do with being loving, being in love, allowing love to happen to you
pattycakes_
Can turn naughty
But on a cold hearted forum like this its a thankless position
WashYourHands
Cat Malogen
Being a parent can change degrees of openness
Admit I’ve never scrutinised anyone in a supervisory role as fully since the kids arrived. I think any other approach is grossly naive with so many threats around but you can’t be a human gatekeeping mono-fort either. Then one will invariably mention a sleepover at a “mate’s”, cue who the fuck is this step-Dad sketchy overseeing owt?
Toughest balancing act of all, cue “Jimmy!!!” getting fried rescuing frisbees from a pylon public information film flashback styles
Admit I’ve never scrutinised anyone in a supervisory role as fully since the kids arrived. I think any other approach is grossly naive with so many threats around but you can’t be a human gatekeeping mono-fort either. Then one will invariably mention a sleepover at a “mate’s”, cue who the fuck is this step-Dad sketchy overseeing owt?
Toughest balancing act of all, cue “Jimmy!!!” getting fried rescuing frisbees from a pylon public information film flashback styles