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hmm, the Doogz bashing is a bit odd, top 5 ever for my money and Axiom was one of the best releases the scene has ever had, but Wiley has almost put out as much quality grime in the past few months as Doogz has in his whole career - ryder dub, off the radar, where's my brother, angry garden gnome/wreath etc. so the talk about him being past it is a bit premature. he completely disowned See Clear Now as well so to hold that against him is a bit harsh whilst he's he's still making more grime than anyone else.
viktorvaughn
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double post
viktorvaughn
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Thing is to me he hasn't lost any credibility! He's such an up and down erratic character that I don't care that he's done some shitty album with mark ronson et al cos I know he'll bounce back with some hard gritty stuff on myspace or mixtapes that'll only be heard by people who seek it out...I know he will. he's compulsively creating, seems almost like an affliction, I guess it's all feeding into the Wiley myth machine but i don't mind really, he's such a rich and interesting character...
But it's true about how funny different ratings of MCs are - blaze more than u is one of my top mixtapes and some people hate it.
slackk
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The amount of people I've offended by playing that Domestic Violence is unbelievable.
I was actually trying to make a mixtape of grime songs about hitting women a while back, but I only got four deep. I know I've heard more than that though.
viktorvaughn
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lol both sides of this argument are being too harsh imo (on goodz or wiley respectively). for me goodz' post-remand stuff is sick, as are wiley's recent freestyles.
just allow the debate and have a goodz vs wiley poll already won't you?
Wiley is much better tho innit.
viktorvaughn
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I do skip over that one actually. His voice and flow and cold emotional is amazing though.
The track where he talks about him mum hugging him and feeling the bullet proof vest and him later driving across four lanes of traffic on the motorway with his girl is so good, kinda bleak and gruelling. Might be just called I blaze more than u come to think of it.
mos dan
fact music
there's one tune which is basically making rape a laugh and a joke ting, on the 'eye of the tiger' true tiger compilation, forget the track name.. fucking reprehensible, but i would say that, pc fascist that i am. it's kind of 'in role', the mc who 'doesn't care if she gives consent', but still.
just remembered: it's called 'let it go', actually a pretty good tune, questionable subject matter aside.
Dr. Benway
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wasn't there some equally reprehensible Black Ops tunes along these lines? no wonder my mates wouldn't touch grime with a bargepole.
viktorvaughn
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There are some pretty disgraceful (not in a good way) bars from musical mob MCs about getting a blowjob that uses a metaphor of coming as shooting the girls head off, you think fucking hell mate...you're only about 17 can't you just enjoy it?
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There are some pretty disgraceful (not in a good way) bars from musical mob MCs about getting a blowjob that uses a metaphor of coming as shooting the girls head off, you think fucking hell mate...you're only about 17 can't you just enjoy it?
In other news
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"ho's don't mean shit to us, unless they want to bang, bang, bang"
i heard a riddim a couple of months ago produced by DJ Target (i think? maybe danny weed?) that was like 115-120bpm, with voicings from wiley, kano and a couple of other people i can't remember. it was on someone's radio show, i think on 1xtra but can't really remember ... does that ring any bells for anyone, can't for the life of me remember what it was called or where i heard it to track it down
thanks!
thanks!
slackk
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There are some pretty disgraceful (not in a good way) bars from musical mob MCs about getting a blowjob that uses a metaphor of coming as shooting the girls head off, you think fucking hell mate...you're only about 17 can't you just enjoy it?
In other news
Stupidatoire garnier line-up
Ah, Rugrat & Dizzman you horrible bastards, how I miss you so.
That line-up is fucked.
i heard a riddim a couple of months ago produced by DJ Target (i think? maybe danny weed?) that was like 115-120bpm, with voicings from wiley, kano and a couple of other people i can't remember. it was on someone's radio show, i think on 1xtra but can't really remember ... does that ring any bells for anyone, can't for the life of me remember what it was called or where i heard it to track it down
thanks!
Too Many Man by Boy Better Know, maybe?
edit- of course it's She's Glowing.
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thanks, but no it wasn't either of them, I've managed to find it now, it was on target's show but it's a danny weed production, called the activity riddim:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/1xtra/target/20081122.shtml
http://www.bbc.co.uk/1xtra/target/20081122.shtml
Wow. The bit at 6:00 in the last one where he... well, I don't wanna give it away if you haven't seen, I think the power comes from watching the whole thing before hand, but that chills me, thats so moving.