crackerjack

Well-known member
Well, if I remember correctly, in both the film and the book he makes a record for his wife before he dies. Safe in the knowledge that she has nothing to play the record on he tells the truth about how he never really loved her and married her to prevent her giving evidence against him. In the book when he dies she remembers the record and sets off to play it, presumably discovering the terrible truth. In the film however she plays it but it jumps and sticks on the bit when he says "you want me to say I love you" and keeps saying "I love you" leaving her happy.


The original sounds bleaker and more authentically Greene, but there's something quite dark about the film's ending, dontcha think? The happy idiot going on in her dreamworld, oblivious to what everyone else (and she herself, deep down) knows about Pinky.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
"The original sounds bleaker and more authentically Greene, but there's something quite dark about the film's ending, dontcha think? The happy idiot going on in her dreamworld, oblivious to what everyone else (and she herself, deep down) knows about Pinky."
That's the exact point someone else made to me.
Edit: and a good point at that.
 
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tox

Factory Girl
Two Days in Paris - Very good... The kind of film Woody Allen should be making now. Very much in the style of Before Sunrise/Sunset, but with a comic edge. The story is the old relationship in difficulties shape chestnut, but done with some style and depth. I guess the extra dimension is the subject of "cross-cultural" relationships, rather than just the specific relationship in the movie. It does start a little on the twee side, but develops into something much more genuine. Looking forward to some more Julie Delpy films in the future.

Superbad - The trailers don't do justice to the hilarity of this film. For me the majority of the laughter came from the brilliant delivery of the dialogue given to the three lead characters. The premise is basically nothing more involved than American Pie, but the execution is far funnier. There's not a serious scene in the whole movie and if anything I laughed too much - to the point I was finding stuff funny and not able to actually laugh any more.

Knocked Up
- Another effort from the same stable as Superbad (do these guys have a name yet? They're like a younger extension of the Frat Pack). The target audience is obviously larger and the film not quite so relentlessly joke-laden, still had me laughing though. Read an interesting/annoying article in the Guardian about these new slacker-rom-coms:

The Guardian said:
This summer's big hit, Knocked Up, is the latest in a new genre of romantic comedies in which an unappealing hero gets together with a gorgeous, successful woman. The critics loved it - but if this offensive, misogynist nonsense is the future of cinema then we're in deep trouble, argues Joe Queenan

I think Joe Queenan has grabbed the totally wrong end of the stick here, but I'll save that for another thread another day.

Run, Fat Boy, Run
- Terrible terrible movie. Cliche story set in a horrific Richard Curtis style London. Dylan Moran is the only redeeming feature in a movie that even managed to make Thandie Newton unattractive. Then again, it is directed by a Friends actor... eurgh. Avoid!
 

crackerjack

Well-known member
Two Days in Paris - Very good... The kind of film Woody Allen should be making now. Very much in the style of Before Sunrise/Sunset, but with a comic edge. The story is the old relationship in difficulties shape chestnut, but done with some style and depth. I guess the extra dimension is the subject of "cross-cultural" relationships, rather than just the specific relationship in the movie. It does start a little on the twee side, but develops into something much more genuine. Looking forward to some more Julie Delpy films in the future.

Superbad - The trailers don't do justice to the hilarity of this film. For me the majority of the laughter came from the brilliant delivery of the dialogue given to the three lead characters. The premise is basically nothing more involved than American Pie, but the execution is far funnier. There's not a serious scene in the whole movie and if anything I laughed too much - to the point I was finding stuff funny and not able to actually laugh any more.

Knocked Up
- Another effort from the same stable as Superbad (do these guys have a name yet? They're like a younger extension of the Frat Pack). The target audience is obviously larger and the film not quite so relentlessly joke-laden, still had me laughing though. Read an interesting/annoying article in the Guardian about these new slacker-rom-coms:



I think Joe Queenan has grabbed the totally wrong end of the stick here, but I'll save that for another thread another day.

Run, Fat Boy, Run
- Terrible terrible movie. Cliche story set in a horrific Richard Curtis style London. Dylan Moran is the only redeeming feature in a movie that even managed to make Thandie Newton unattractive. Then again, it is directed by a Friends actor... eurgh. Avoid!

John Patterson is the only Guardian writer worth reading on American bloke-coms. He so totally gets them. Looking forward to seeing both of these.

Having seen Big Nothing I can't imagine anything good coming out of the Simon Pegg/Ross of Friends combo, so this doesn't surprise me at all.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Originally Posted by The Guardian
This summer's big hit, Knocked Up, is the latest in a new genre of romantic comedies in which an unappealing hero gets together with a gorgeous, successful woman. The critics loved it - but if this offensive, misogynist nonsense is the future of cinema then we're in deep trouble, argues Joe Queenan

How is it 'mysgynist'? Surely, if anything, it's offensive to men?
 

crackerjack

Well-known member
How is it 'mysgynist'? Surely, if anything, it's offensive to men?

One critic in the Guardian (not Quuenan) had a go at it because the character doesn't seriously consider abortion, even tho she's knocked up involuntarily. Come back tomorrow and I'll explain how The Godfather is deeply reactionary, coz, like killing is bad and stuff.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
One critic in the Guardian (not Quuenan) had a go at it because the character doesn't seriously consider abortion, even tho she's knocked up involuntarily.

I'm guessing you mean 'unintentionally' - 'involuntarily' kind of implies she was raped! Unless that's what 'rom-coms' are about these days...

Come back tomorrow and I'll explain how The Godfather is deeply reactionary, coz, like killing is bad and stuff.

I found the lack of Maori characters deeply offensive.
 

tox

Factory Girl
Checked out Hallam Foe yesterday. Very interesting little film.

It stars Jamie Bell, which probably accounted for the unusually large number of all female groups in the cinema (and they were rewarded with a couple of bare-chest moments and arse shots, so it's all good). Basically Hallam Foe's mother dies and his rather repressed family don't bring the circumstances out into the open. This later leaves a teenage Hallam confused and angry, leading him to lead the life of a recluse, living in a treehouse. Eventually he's pushed away from the family home and moves to Edinburgh...

I found the soundtrack slightly distracting and jarring, in that it contained lots of licensed tracks, I've heard elsewhere, and that broke the suspension of disbelief. There was also an awkward-ness about the setting, which left some things as very down to earth, and others as complete fairytale twee.

Despite those flaws I really enjoyed it. The acting was good, the subject matter interesting, and the way it was shot very involving. The peeping-tom life of Bell's character allowed the film to explore all kinds of mundane human behaviour which usually isn''t seen in movies. A fair whack of humour, plenty to think about and a cute title sequence. Recommended.
 

crackerjack

Well-known member
The trailer made it look like a more earnest Gregory's Girl (though that might have been the coinicdence of the peeping tom scene).
 

tox

Factory Girl
The trailer made it look like a more earnest Gregory's Girl (though that might have been the coinicdence of the peeping tom scene).

Y'know, I haven't seen Gregory's Girl. It looks pretty similar from the IMDB page. I'll give it a rent/download n see.
 

bruno

est malade
yes i have, its super weird and i loved it. these are the only two i've seen by him, he is hard to track down.
 
yes i have, its super weird and i loved it. these are the only two i've seen by him, he is hard to track down.

I only learned recently that Borowczyk died last year. My favourite of his feature films is The Story of Sin (followed by Blanche), but after such work in the early-1970s, his film-making went into rapid (erotomania soft-porn) decline to the point that he was reduced to filming Emmanuell V in the 1980s (the fate of Ken Russell comes to mind), eventually abandoning film altogether and returning to fine art, paticularly sculpture.

Much more influencial though, was his earlier work as a surrealist animator (Kafka meets Bunuel), establishing a framework for such later directors as Jan Svankmajer, Terry Gilliam, The Brothers Quay, and Nagisha Oshima, not to mention Chris Marker, who collaborated with Borowczyk on the animation short, The Astronauts (1959). Watch it here.
 

bruno

est malade
that's intersting hm, i may go to lyon next week and annecy seems to be not so far away, i would very much like to see that exhibition.

i have to admit i'm a bit of a soft porn enthusiast so his 'descent' into that world doesen't bother me, maybe this is exactly what he wanted to do? but i agree it's a shame to see an artist reduced to doing thing s/he would rather not do, unable to articulate a vision, especially near the end of productive life.
 
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IdleRich

IdleRich
"I only learned recently that Borowczyk died last year. My favourite of his feature films is The Story of Sin (followed by Blanche), but after such work in the early-1970s, his film-making went into rapid (erotomania soft-porn) decline to the point that he was reduced to filming Emmanuell V in the 1980s (the fate of Ken Russell comes to mind), eventually abandoning film altogether and returning to fine art, paticularly sculpture.

Much more influencial though, was his earlier work as a surrealist animator (Kafka meets Bunuel), establishing a framework for such later directors as Jan Svankmajer, Terry Gilliam, The Brothers Quay, and Nagisha Oshima, not to mention Chris Marker, who collaborated with Borowczyk on the animation short, The Astronauts (1959). Watch it here."
Thanks for info and link. I didn't realise he had died.
 

Guybrush

Dittohead
Since it’s kind of difficult to get hold of, I thought someone would be interested in these links (I haven’t seen the film in some time, but I remember liking it the last time I saw it):

The Boys in the Band (1970)

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http://rapidshare.com/files/54169505/boys_in_the_b.avi.001
http://rapidshare.com/files/54173131/boys_in_the_b.avi.002
http://rapidshare.com/files/54177073/boys_in_the_b.avi.003
http://rapidshare.com/files/54181414/boys_in_the_b.avi.004
http://rapidshare.com/files/54185920/boys_in_the_b.avi.005
http://rapidshare.com/files/54190443/boys_in_the_b.avi.006
http://rapidshare.com/files/54194985/boys_in_the_b.avi.007
http://rapidshare.com/files/54200085/boys_in_the_b.avi.008
http://rapidshare.com/files/54205309/boys_in_the_b.avi.009
http://rapidshare.com/files/54210719/boys_in_the_b.avi.010
http://rapidshare.com/files/54215854/boys_in_the_b.avi.011
http://rapidshare.com/files/54218210/boys_in_the_b.avi.012

(Source)
 

tht

akstavrh
the kingdom, arab snuff film w/ jamie foxx, not von trier
some kurt kren shit on youtube
swiss army knife w/ birds and pigeons (robert breer)
andrei rublyov
julien donkey boy
 
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