scottdisco

rip this joint please
It made for difficult watching*; I haven't seen a film that's forced me to view it from such multiple points of (the oppressor/ the father's) gaze for a while.

I thought the depiction of the Nigerians was deliberately contentious - and hammered home a personal idea of racism to its South African audience - bearing in mind the trouble last year, where there was serious talk of expelling all Nigerians from the country, and 50 people died in race riots.

By portraying Nigerians as a stereotypical gang - and some gangs in South Africa are called 'The Americans'; y'know, by nationalities - it forced its (South African) viewers to really question what was happening now in their country. I kind of admired the fact he took all that money and then made a huge film - and knowing that probably most people in South Africa will watch it, it being the biggest film to have come out of there - to take that money and make a film with a deliberately parochial message I thought was brilliant.

*District 9

very well put mistersloane, it was certainly these sorts of points i was flashing on when i saw it. as regards last spring's communal blood-letting in RSA - an orgy of xenophobia - it struck me that perhaps the sharpest line in the film on quite a few levels is uttered by a young man in the early scenes where they mock up vox-pop and this interviewee says to the camera something along the lines of "Maybe I wouldn't mind if they were just from another country you know, but they are not even from our planet"
 

mistersloane

heavy heavy monster sound
very well put mistersloane, it was certainly these sorts of points i was flashing on when i saw it. as regards last spring's communal blood-letting in RSA - an orgy of xenophobia - it struck me that perhaps the sharpest line in the film on quite a few levels is uttered by a young man in the early scenes where they mock up vox-pop and this interviewee says to the camera something along the lines of "Maybe I wouldn't mind if they were just from another country you know, but they are not even from our planet"

I read somewhere - I think maybe here

http://www.racialicious.com/2009/08/18/district-9-is-racist-alternate-perspective/

that those vox pop comments were actually people's responses to being asked what they thought of Nigerians, which if so places the film just in a whole other level. I haven't checked out if that's true though, will get back if I find out anything more,
 

scottdisco

rip this joint please
I read somewhere - I think maybe here

http://www.racialicious.com/2009/08/18/district-9-is-racist-alternate-perspective/

that those vox pop comments were actually people's responses to being asked what they thought of Nigerians, which if so places the film just in a whole other level. I haven't checked out if that's true though, will get back if I find out anything more,

nice one, do keep us posted.

methinks people who assume the only political analogies to be read into this film are apartheid-era have not been following the news from RSA in recent years...
 

craner

Beast of Burden
Inglourious Basterds

This almost hit the spot!

I can't recall a single Tarantino movie I've ever liked. (I have never seen Jackie Brown, mind you, or Death Proof.) I remember enjoying Pulp Fiction at the point of impact (in the cinema aged 16 or whatever I was) but immediately afterwards feeling queasy, unsatisfied and still hungry, just like after eating the kind of junk food the film obsessed over. I can't even begin to tell you how much I loathed both Kill Bill films; but, then, I can't begin to tell you how much I love Meiko Kaji. But I really enjoyed this one. It was a "pleasant" surprise.

It's a preposterous film that takes the biggest historical liberty in the history of war movies, and I include Isla - She Wolf of the SS. However, amongst the Nazisploitation silliness and slightly overdone spaghetti western posturing (I'm too fond of these films to feel happy about QT-schtick) are some very dramatic and stylish scenes! In particular, the opening segment on the dairy farm ('Once Upon a Time...In Nazi-occupied France') and the 'interrogation' scene/Mexican stand off in the tavern ('Operation Kino'). The script was a lot better than normal - QT curtailed that horrible chatty zeigeisty horseshit to some effect. (Again, the tavern scene deserves praise: details beautifully rendered, tension exquisitely paced.)

It's a shame that Morricone couldn't write a new score for the film because it's lumbered with the usual QT pick'n'mix, a flaw that dragged Kill Bill into self-referential mania and ultimate obsolescence. Not that QT doesn't choose fabulous music. But it's the choice of a great list-maker. And when QT is fucking up his films it's because the list-maker and fan boy has consumed the producer-director, which is what usually happens.

As has been pointed out endlessly Basterds isn't really about war, or Jews, or Nazis, but about Cinema. And that is at the dead hollow heart of QT and his films. But I didn't hate it here. Because it's actually in the very structure of the film, so there's a thematic sheen that almost makes the thing whole. It's as close to profound as the video-shop whizz has got. Also because, as an exercise in style, some parts are, for once, very stylish. (I must mention Diana Krug, who is sensational and almost steals the film from Christoph Waltz, but not quite. Brad Pitt isn't quite as dreadful as people have said, but the accent doesn't help. Which is odd because Brad Pitt can be brilliant and could've eaten this movie alive.)

Enough of this nonsense.
 

lanugo

von Verfall erzittern
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Ashes of Time Redux - Proust meets eastern storytelling meets martial arts. A recut (or rather restored) version of a masterpiece of chinese cinema. .
 

baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
valerie is so good. broadcast named a song after that movie and would not be surprised if they sampled a bit of the score.

a friend once commented that the movie does a good job of emulating the fluidity of identity of various people in a child's eyes. or if you're, you know, tripping. characters folding into other characters.

Saw most of Valerie's Week of Wonders last night (I was tired and kept almost drifting off, OK?). I liked it well enough, but (and I still have 20 mins to see, fair enough) as with a lot of films of this ilk, I wasn't 100 per cent convinced that the film wasn't just doing some weird stuff for the sake of it at times*. Agree with the comment re fluidity of identity above tho - that aspect was interesting.

Anyone notice that the melodic motif off Inner Flight from 'Scremadelica' is almost a replica of part of the score of Valerie?

* though this was about 1 000 000 times better than something like El Topo, which is just wilfully 'weird', and also fucking boring. I hear Holy Mountain is good though.


Apropos of nothing, any Amos Kollek fans round these parts?
 
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IdleRich

IdleRich
Tren de Sombras

This is a strange one, got sent this by a friend and didn't really know what to expect. It begins with a bit of blurb about how in the twenties some French guy died in mysterious circumstances after heading off to catch the early light for some photos of a lake near his house. The story then states that he was an amateur photographer and that his last films of his family have been found and reconstructed to give some flavour of their life.
Lots of (fake) black and white footage then ensues with brilliantly realised clips of the wealthy family playing tennis, messing around on the lawn, dancing, going cycling and walking in the nearby picturesque countryside. With virtually no explanation or anything giving any clue to what is going on except for the occasional scene title such as "Beauties on the Trapeze" some might find this a chore to watch but it's so well done I found it quite captivating.
After an hour or so of this the film suddenly jerks back to present day (or thereabouts) and shows lots of poignant pictures of the places where the family used to play or whatever, many now overgrown and abandoned. Then there is a strange sequence of bizarre shots of their mansion with a kind of ghostly feel - clocks ticking, movements in the mirror seemingly seen out of the corner of the eye, trees casting sinister shadows etc Then back to the "old" footage but now the images are messed around with and repeated or looped - a particular interest seems to be the beautiful girl on the trapeze who is searched out by the camera and then zoomed in on time and time again. This weird obsessive footage is then interspliced with colour film of the family and events involving them which occurred just off screen in the original reel, there seems to be more than originally met the eye going on and the happiness family of before is somehow questioned. There is also footage of the dead man in which he appears to be a ghost, the banal artifacts of present day farming visible through his elegant old clothes.
In sum the film reminds me of Sans Soleil without the voice-over or Blow Up if it didn't tie up all the loose ends so easily. Worth checking for those with patience and an interest in this kind of thing.

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http://archive.sensesofcinema.com/contents/cteq/09/50/tren-de-sombras.html
 

Likedeeler

Música es la heroína
Ulrich Seidl - Import Export

Not sure if it is available with English or other subtitles. Amazing film, however.

Most, if not all, actors are nonprofessionals, delivering spotless performances. This adds to the film's impact and slice-of-life feel while being contrasted by deliberately artificial camera views. There are two story lines that cross but never merge:

Olga, a nurse in a grey Ukrainian city, wants to find something better than her clinic work that just does not pay. She lives in a shabby flat with her mother and leaves behind her little child to go to Vienna, after a short intermezzo in the webcam porn business. In Austria, Olga gets hired as a charlady in well-off people's houses before she ends up working in a geriatric hospital, putting away shitty nappies.

Paul, from Vienna, lives with his mother, too. He starts a job as security guard in a car park and loses it again after a bunch of youngsters get at him in the basement at night, strip and humiliate him. Paul is broke and constantly has to evade his shady creditors. He stupidly provokes losing also his girlfriend and eventually goes to the Ukraine with his mother's sleazy boyfriend to set up bubble gum machines.

The sparse plot is depicted in and around a series of still lifes through which the characters move. The camera changes between hand-held motion and those long, static, almost photographic images. Their often symmetric composition conveys beauty and drabness at the same time. Some scenes are unbelievably hard, others very comical, many are both. Sex, death, hope, humiliation, agony, compassion, the ugly face of capitalism and the grimaces of poverty. Separate rags for loo and bathroom armatures. Absurdity. Futility. It's all there, except deliverance. Breathtaking.
 
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slim jenkins

El Hombre Invisible
'The Machinist' - emaciated Christian Bale deserved and award for...dedication? Authenticity? This drew me in...beautifully shot in bleached out tones and, OK, it was all a ______ (no spoilers) but I still enjoyed the trip. Nice touch on the soundtrack, which pays homage to Hermann's work for Hitch and 'The Day The Earth Stood Still'.
 

baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
'The Machinist' - emaciated Christian Bale deserved and award for...dedication? Authenticity? This drew me in...beautifully shot in bleached out tones and, OK, it was all a ______ (no spoilers) but I still enjoyed the trip. Nice touch on the soundtrack, which pays homage to Hermann's work for Hitch and 'The Day The Earth Stood Still'.

fucking love that film! very rarely gets cited tho. True that it can disappoint ultimately, but its hypnotic take on ________ logic hooked me in utterly.

Aitana Sanchez-Gijon (obviously her screen name) is hot in that Spanish older woman way too (ie, just hot really).
 
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baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
Woah, Martyrs. the first 30/45 minutes ripped through me viscerally (way better than Antichrist, believe)...I know why you liked it, but I was rather hoping it would somewhere other (to me more interesting) than it did....even if where it led was utterly unexpected.

In its aesthetic, the conclusion reminded me of Unbreakable (shylaman) a bit to be honest. Not keen on that kind of thing in the final analysis. Everything til the denouement was brilliantly conceived though, and v glad I watched it.


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Pascal Laugier's Martyrs - probably the most gruesome and sickening horror film ever made :eek:. Unlike all the rhetorical superlatives stirring up the media hype about Lars von Trier's "Antichrist" (which, admittely, I haven't seen yet but expect to be utter garbage, considering the preposterous statements Trier made in interviews and the way it's received and celebrated in mainstream media by clueless critics), the above assessment is not in the least hyperbolic but simply accurate. Truly transgressive and unpretentiously artful cinema. I think, Bataille would very much approve of this film.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Watched a couple of crazy good films yesterday, both subtitled by the guy who sold them to me and both nuts.
First a peculiarly styled Italian version of Salome directed by Carmelo Bene

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069210/

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And then a kind of futuristic take on Meyrinck's The Golem which draws parallels between cloning in a post-nuclear future (which doesn't look at all futuristic - just weird) and the legend of the golem.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080806/

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The scenery consisting of claustrophobic windswept tunnels and shops filled with bric-a-brac suggest a ghetto somewhat similar to that in the original novel although this is deliberately undermined by news story about nuclear war and talking head type scenes with genetic scientists.
 

4linehaiku

Repetitive
Any time I fancy a quick recommendation for a film that no-one I know has even heard of, I just pop in here and see what what IdleRich is posting. Usually turns out to be a good film too, so cheers for that. Getting Golem now.

On a less positive note, I watched that Red Cockroaches film mentioned a few pages ago, and it really didn't live up to the promise of its poster. I don't know if I just completely missed the entire point of the film, but I thought it was rubbish, particularly the end. The entire Sci-Fi aspect of the film was completely pointless (and frequently ignored by the plot), and seemed primarily to be an excuse to have not very well CGI-ed flying cars in the background.
It's kind of impressive that it was made by one guy for basically no money, but then so was Primer, and that was actually good as well.

Back to the recommendations. Watched Homicide a few days ago. It was great. I assume most people already know this, Mamet is not exactly an unknown. I expected endlessly convoluted con action, and I thought I was getting it, and then I didn't. Possibly I got meta-conned. Thumbs up all round.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
"Any time I fancy a quick recommendation for a film that no-one I know has even heard of, I just pop in here and see what what IdleRich is posting. Usually turns out to be a good film too, so cheers for that. Getting Golem now."
Cool - hope you like it.

"Where does Idlerich find all these wonderful films?"
Both of those two were tips from a guy I purchased a film from on ebay. He's a film uber-geek and he subtitles stuff from about four or five languages (dunno if he has help or what) into English and seems to know more about films than anyone else in the whole world knows about anything.

"On a less positive note, I watched that Red Cockroaches film mentioned a few pages ago, and it really didn't live up to the promise of its poster. I don't know if I just completely missed the entire point of the film, but I thought it was rubbish, particularly the end. The entire Sci-Fi aspect of the film was completely pointless (and frequently ignored by the plot), and seemed primarily to be an excuse to have not very well CGI-ed flying cars in the background.
It's kind of impressive that it was made by one guy for basically no money, but then so was Primer, and that was actually good as well."
Yeah, I checked that out too and was a little disappointed. Perhaps because it looked as though it ought to be so good. A lot of the reviews said that the acting was bad but I wasn't prepared for quite how bad, in the first few scenes (before you got used to it) it was impossible to have any suspension of disbelief whatsoever 'cause you couldn't associate the way the people behaved with any kind of natural behaviour such as an actual person might display.
There were some interesting ideas in there at times but never fully realised and I agree that the ending (despite what was promised in the blurb) was weak as water.
 
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