Why Conspiracy Theories?

firefinga

firefinga

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Leo said:
christ, that's demoralizing but not surprising. perhaps the obama years were just a liberal/progressive blip, an anomaly after which we now return to the mercy of the super rich. not that the super rich suffered all that much during the past eight years, but they are firmly back in the driver's seat now. on steroids.
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That doesn't really qualify as conspiracy though IMO. It reads like old fashioned lobbyism to me, just with updated methods like paid trolls etc.
 
luka

luka

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it falls under my definition. i could of posted it on a few different threads but i thought this was the most provocative. it seems to me to fit the precise definition of conspiracy, the classical definition. rich, powerful men colluding in secret to bring about a specific set of goals inimical to the interests of humanity at large
 
sufi

sufi

lala
droid said:
Im very familiar with the likes of Gary Webb and the investigative strand of conspiracy, but I would argue that these people are successful precisely because they follow established journalistic and investigative principles and dont follow the shotgun approach of conspiracists.

But tell me, in your opinion, what % of of 'conspiranauts' have revealed genuine conspiracies?
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The Dark Alliance


Gary Webb's Incendiary 1996 SJ Mercury News Exposé

These articles were downloaded from the web site of the Seattle Times, since the San Jose Mercury News has removed the entire series from their web site.

Gary Webb's career as a professional journalist was destroyed shortly after these articles were published. Anyone who challenges the House of Rockefeller is persona non grata throughout the establishment. -The Editor

Aug 22, 1996

Cocaine pipeline financed rebels
Evidence points to CIA knowing of high-volume drug network

by Gary Webb
San Jose Mercury News

For the better part of a decade, a San Francisco Bay Area drug ring sold tons of cocaine to the Crips and Bloods street gangs of Los Angeles and funneled millions in drug profits to an arm of the contra guerrillas of Nicaragua run by the Central Intelligence Agency, the San Jose Mercury News has found. This drug network opened the first pipeline between Colombia's cocaine cartels and the black neighborhoods of Los Angeles, a city now known as the "crack" capital of the world. The cocaine that flooded in helped spark a crack explosion in urban America - and provided the cash and connections needed for L.A.'s gangs to buy weapons. It is one of the most bizarre alliances in modern history: the union of a U.S.-backed army attempting to overthrow a revolutionary socialist government and the "gangstas" of Compton and South-Central Los Angeles. The army's financiers - who met with CIA agents before and during the time they were selling the drugs in L.A. - delivered cut-rate cocaine to the gangs through a young South-Central crack dealer named Ricky Donnell Ross. Unaware of his suppliers' military and political connections, "Freeway Rick" turned the cocaine powder into crack and wholesaled it to gangs across the country.
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Aug 22, 1996

Salvador air force linked to cocaine flights, Nicaraguan contras, drug dealer's supplier

by Gary Webb
San Jose Mercury News

One thing is certain: There is considerable evidence that El Salvador's air force was deeply involved with cocaine flights, the contras and drug dealer Oscar Danilo Blandon Reyes' cocaine supplier, Norwin Meneses. Meneses said one of his oldest friends is a former contra pilot named Marcos Aguado, a Nicaraguan who works for the Salvadoran air-force high command. Aguado was identified in 1987 congressional testimony as a CIA agent who helped the contras get weapons, airplanes and money from a major Colombian drug trafficker named George Morales. Aguado admitted his role in that deal in a videotaped deposition taken by a U.S. Senate subcommittee that year. His name also turned up in a deposition taken by the congressional Iran-contra committees that same year. Robert Owen, a courier for Lt. Col. Oliver North, testified he knew Aguado as a contra pilot and said there was "concern" about his being involved with drug trafficking. While flying for the contras, Aguado was stationed at Ilopango Air Base near El Salvador's capital. In 1985, the DEA agent assigned to El Salvador - Celerino Castillo III - began picking up reports that cocaine was being flown to the United States out of hangars 4 and 5 at Ilopango as part of a contra-related covert operation. Castillo said he soon confirmed what his informants were telling him. Starting in January 1986, Castillo began documenting the cocaine flights - listing pilot names, tail numbers, dates and flight plans - and sent them to DEA headquarters. The only response he got, Castillo wrote in his 1994 memoirs, was an internal DEA investigation of him. He took a disability retirement from the agency in 1991. "Basically, the bottom line is it was a covert operation and they (DEA officials) were covering it up," Castillo said in an interview. "You can't get any simpler than that. It was a cover-up."
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https://theintercept.com/2014/09/25/managing-nightmare-cia-media-destruction-gary-webb/
Proper job, read the original articles if you can, then marvel at what Luka quoted about how he shot himself twice
luka said:
http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.co.uk/2005/03/conspiracy-theory-made-easy.html
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reminds one somewhat of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Morgan_(private_investigator)
 
sufi

sufi

lala
yes please!
I c&ped a load of Webb articles years ago, and they just bobbed up again
Are you asking why's it like D Morgan? Just because it's a real cover-up of a real conspiracy, back in the pre-internet days.
 
Corpsey

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
A man with a rifle who claimed to be "self-investigating" a baseless online conspiracy theory entered the Washington, D.C., pizzeria Comet Ping Pong on Sunday, according to local police.

The man allegedly pointed the gun at a restaurant employee, who managed to escape, then fired the weapon multiple times inside the restaurant. There were no reports of injuries, police say. A North Carolina man has been charged with assault with a dangerous weapon in connection with the shooting.

It's a disturbing development in what has already been a weeks-long ordeal for Comet Ping Pong, a kid-friendly pizza restaurant that also hosts live music events.

Internet users have developed a wholly fictitious conspiracy theory that maintains Comet Ping Pong is the site of an international Satanic child sex abuse cabal hosted by powerful Democrats, including Hillary Clinton. Speculation and fabrications tied to the bizarre conspiracy theory have been relentlessly circulated by politically motivated fringe sites.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...pizzeria-cites-fictitious-conspiracy-theories

A theory pushed by Alex Jones, who claims to have Trump's ear:
 
Corpsey

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
vimothy said:
Luka is actually the board's only poster.
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I'd actually be made up for myself if luka turned out to be me. I'd be very impressed with myself. I'd contain hidden depths.

Is it just me that is thoroughly sick of being myself at this stage in my life? I'd like to discover I could be someone else entirely.
 
Corpsey

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Are children too young to bother with conspiracy theories? Or are conspiracy theories something adults indulge in to feel like children again?

(That'll annoy luka/me/barty/mr tea)
 
Mr. Tea

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Corpsey said:
Are children too young to bother with conspiracy theories? Or are conspiracy theories something adults indulge in to feel like children again?

(That'll annoy luka/me/barty/mr tea)
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SHUT UP DAD

Here's a good one for you all. One to file in the 'metaconspiracy theory' folder, or the idea that conspiracy theories themselves have been created and propagated by shadow governments in order to distract from the real conspiracies:

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...the-government-to-track-your-thoughts/262998/

A decade ago, some students created a model of a human head and put a radio frequency receiver in the centre of it, and tested the strength of the signal received over a range of frequencies both with and without a tinfoil hat. They found that, while the tinfoil partially blocked some frequencies, it actually amplified certain others.
 
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