sufi

lala
But aren't yourself and Luka, when you boil it down, essentially advocating conspiracy as entertainment? As spectacle for the erudite? Or, to be mean spirited, rubber necking the psychic car crashes of the mentally ill?
Nope! read my post again!
I thought i explained how some conspiranauts are actually revealing genuine conspiracies, not just chasing windmills
 

luka

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No, Im not saying that, just that there is a danger there. Can you read racist works without becoming racist? Can you read about fascist propaganda without becoming fascist? Theres always the possibility - even if you are sufficiently inoculated. No one is immune.

But aren't yourself and Luka, when you boil it down, essentially advocating conspiracy as entertainment? As spectacle for the erudite? Or, to be mean spirited, rubber necking the psychic car crashes of the mentally ill?

No
 

luka

Well-known member
Everything has a shadow. If you only want to think daylight thoughts, ok. It's the angloid way, but you're missing half the story. Think of the economy.
For example
 

droid

Well-known member
Nope! read my post again!
I thought i explained how some conspiranauts are actually revealing genuine conspiracies, not just chasing windmills

Im very familiar with the likes of Gary Webb and the investigative strand of conspiracy, but I would argue that these people are successful precisely because they follow established journalistic and investigative principles and dont follow the shotgun approach of conspiracists.

But tell me, in your opinion, what % of of 'conspiranauts' have revealed genuine conspiracies?
 

droid

Well-known member
Everything has a shadow. If you only want to think daylight thoughts, ok. It's the angloid way, but you're missing half the story. Think of the economy.
For example

All your doing, consistently, is conflating conspiracy with structure and claiming this is some hidden lore that can only be revealed by magical divination via the netherlands of the psyche.
 

sufi

lala
But tell me, in your opinion, what % of of 'conspiranauts' have revealed genuine conspiracies?
I couldn’t quantify, but i'm sure it's a small proportion.
I guess there's a distinction between people who generate the conspiracy theories and those who consume them. Both positions are valid imho (& not necessarily involving mental ill-health), for the reasons i tried to explain in my long post pages back
 

droid

Well-known member
I couldn’t quantify, but i'm sure it's a small proportion.
I guess there's a distinction between people who generate the conspiracy theories and those who consume them. Both positions are valid imho (& not necessarily involving mental ill-health), for the reasons i tried to explain in my long post pages back

Please, dont think Im condemning anyone here. Im not saying every conspiracist is mentally ill by a long shot, but I view this as an occupational hazard more than anything else. Lockerbie, P2/Gladio, Iran/Contra/Crack, MK Ultra, MLK, Domestic CIA bio weapons testing etc... if you're of the left and you read, then the list of actual conspiracies is long and distinguished, and IMO, its very important to develop the tools to distinguish between conspiracy and structure, otherwise you end up left adrift in a black sea of endless supposition.
 

luka

Well-known member
All your doing, consistently, is conflating conspiracy with structure and claiming this is some hidden lore that can only be revealed by magical divination via the netherlands of the psyche.

You wot mate
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
& that's in alignment with a long-standing establishment smear strategy

I don't think it's necessary to "smear" as mentally ill someone who believes the Earth is flat, hollow or only a few thousand years old.

Of course, there's a huge spectrum of conspiracy theories, ranging from the obviously delusional to the factually correct.
 

droid

Well-known member
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It must also be added that alongside the inimical success of the propaganda model & confirmation bias news feeds, conspiracism is a large factor in the post-truth economy, with real, possibly devastating consequences for the world.
 
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luka

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a reply to: RainbowPhoenix

i want to make a thread on why dose putain want to keep weed illegal in russia, if putain is so agains the NWO who dose he work so hard to censor wikapedia and any sites that refrence to cannabis? when drug laws are clearly pro NWO laws. i wanted to make my own thread on asking this, HOW do you make a thread i don't see an option ANYWHERE to make a new thread :/
 
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