bassnation said:whats your favourite cro mags tune? .
Melchior said:But the best hardcore band of all time for me was Chain of Strength.
Melchior said:Where do we stand on Judge? We still can sing every lyric. Wehn I was 16 or so I used to spend hours playing along to the Bringing it Down record on my guitar.
bassnation said:was there much of this right wing punk rock back at the time? this was much later than the british skinhead movement.
polystyle desu said:Spotrusha - i've only heard OF Cold World but not heard them yet - will have to do so ...
World Collapse sounds interesting ...
Prolly then you at least have heard of Disassociate (RIP) , our bassist Bones was in there , we used to do black rain together in the early '90's .
Cheers
Biohazard ! their first record/CD cover has the black rain Japanese symbol logo right in view there from when we spraybombed it all over the W'Burg waterfront bk in that day .
Currently Evan Seinfeld is on the VH1 Supergroup 'celebreality' series with Scott Ian , Ted Nugent ,
Jason Bonham and S Bach .
Pretty silly doings but one watches it like a slo mo wreck
stelfox said:it was, as far as i could gather much more concentrated in within the NY scene. AF are a difficult band coz i think they're great, but kinda stupid, too. anyway, this thread wasn't supposed to be about me defending agnostic front, it was about DC hardcore, which was far more in line with my emerging politics at that point and a much greater influence on them, too.
Yeah, there is a lot of slowness out there. I wouldn't personally go for Monkey in that list (they were amazing, but very groove-based and quite hardcore in their guitar attack. That EP was prime Sludge, admittedly).matt b said:check the whole 'sludge' subgenre- grief -as mentioned above ('if its too fast, you're too happy), eyehategod, iron monkey, floor etc
stelfox said:i think the straight-edge thing was peculiarly american, and extenstion of shunning the mind-numbing effects of capitalism, however it was pretty paradoxical that many of straight-edges moral standpoints are mirrored by US christian conservatism nowadays. as well as drugs and booze, many straight-edgers now actually advocate sexual abstinence (possibly as an logical conclusion of emo, the emphasis on intensity of emotional connection and experience, therefore eschewing meaningless one-night hook-ups etc), which is fast becoming conservative america's preferred contraceptive measure. i always found that movement a bit silly, way too serious and, basically, have always thoroughly enjoyed getting fucked up.
ripley said:Loving this thread! My musical roots, Boston (where I grew up - anyone remember when Jack/choke started showing up at drumnbass parties and maybe -talking about- spinning hardstep dnb?),.
stelfox said:the strangest point for me is that, in addition to drugs and booze, many straight-edgers now actually advocate sexual abstinence
I saw Higgs play last month and found it pretty awful, to be honest. The record is better. Live, some of the mouth harp and other pseudo droney things are nice, but he's essentially playing half a set of 'songs' that are blatant imitations of persian folk tradition and they sound just terrible, in my opinion - a good example of 'appropriation' that sounds like tedious johnny come lately to middle eastern music kitsch. With cliched, bad cosmic-spiritual 'lyrics.' Great voice though. I'll be seeing him again in a few weeks, as he's playing my town, and will be more than happy to reconsider. I have enormorous respect for Higgs and Lungfish, have his solo album, and was looking forward to seeing him, but. Oh he's also renamed himself as something Indian, I forgot what he said.thought i'd ressurect this, as dan higgs from lungfish is touring at the moment- he's playing in a crypt in skipton!
which led me to listen to lungfish again for the first time in ages- still sound utterly fantastic. ridiculously underrated.
http://www.dischord.com/tours/danielhiggs
Haha, I knew that someone on dissensus would say something like this ^. And fair enough. But with all due respect to dd (whose writing I admire), his songs sounded more like someone aping kord bayat's setar playing + hippified lyrics than anything else. That's probably overly harsh on my part and as I said, I'll be happy to take back my words if convinced otherwise when I see him again next month. And yes, as I mentioned above, he has a special voice and apart from the disappointing show I have nothing but respect for Higgs and Lungfiish, listening to necrophones now in fact and enjoying it as always.I saw Daniel Higgs on Friday and thought it was pretty amazing, actually. Admittedly, he doesn't seem to have many songs, and the mouth harp business is pure novelty, but his songs I thought were incredible. So dry, so stark, with often just two strings, and a terse riff which he kept restating when you least expected it. And that voice, as old as the desert. It was like creeping death, but in a good way.