sadmanbarty
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sadmanbarty
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that's the right answer. human's can apparently survive on just potatoes and milk; we can get all the nutrients we need. jungle's the musical equivalent. everything you could want from music is offered somewhere in jungle. i don't think that's really true of any other type of music. 70's miles maybe. i'm sure someone would say krautrock, but as we all know krautrock is music for boring people to pretend they're cleaver to.
padraig (u.s.)
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padraig (u.s.)
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here's another video where he explains how he separately also invented techno and house
padraig (u.s.)
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only half-kidding
(tho obv I agree with about jungle, not trying to get my dissensus card revoked)
(tho obv I agree with about jungle, not trying to get my dissensus card revoked)
luka
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i mean he didnt obviously but he was a great drummer. the problem with can, who i like, broadly speaking, is the stupid hippy singing.
padraig (u.s.)
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well fortunately for you there's all those wonderful endless hypnotic instrumental sections
personally I'm whatever on Damo Suzuki - bit too whimsical for me, made languages etc - but I don't mind him
my favorite Can is def Mooney era Can tho. we've discussed this on here b4. at my core I'm more Head Heritage than Dissensus when it comes to guitars.
padraig (u.s.)
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also have to credit Barty for that setup. totally nonchalant dismissal of a huge, vastly important body of music with an unnecessary comparison to jungle? Classic dissensus vibes.
padraig (u.s.)
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his taste isn't impeccable. he's into some pretty mediocre hard rock, the whole rock n roll shamanism angle is kinda cringe, dance music is well outside his purview, etc
otoh, he was one of the few people who always kept the krautrock torch alive, even when it was super uncool, as well as Japanese heavy/avant rock etc.
if you skim his album of the month reviews, at least 80% if not more is fucking great
he's really good at what he's into, the intersection heavy + avant in guitar music
also he's a Henry Flynt fan, which is enough to win me over regardless of anything else
padraig (u.s.)
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well, not all krautrock is great. there's so much of it, some is actually boring prog, folk, mediocre hard rock that gets lumped in with krautrock proper
he's really into those Cosmic Jokers records which are pretty bad.
otoh most of his kraut top 50 is amazing
it's received wisdom now to say Can, Faust, Neu!, Ash Ra Tempel, Cluster etc are some of the greatest bands ever but I don't think it was when he wrote it
padraig (u.s.)
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some of the shaggy, hippier stuff I like, some not so much. it depends on your tolerance for that kinda thing.
luka
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i got his krautrock sampler out stratford library as a teenager. not knocking it. i like cope as a character and im very glad he exists. taking so much acid you think youre a shopping centre and all that. so long as no one makes me listen to his music or the hard rock records he likes.
padraig (u.s.)
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he definitely turned me on to some amazing records. his writing on the Japanese avant rock scene is even better than the krautrock. less fanboy, more scholarly.
Flower Travellin' Band, Taj Mahal Travellers, Les Rallizes Desnudes, Speed Glue + Shinki, Magical Power Mako, all the avant theater rock stuff
Flower Travellin' Band, Taj Mahal Travellers, Les Rallizes Desnudes, Speed Glue + Shinki, Magical Power Mako, all the avant theater rock stuff
padraig (u.s.)
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oh yeah I don't want to listen to his actual records either
his hard rock taste is mostly excellent but I realize that's not your thing, or most people's here
you might like the weird protopunk side of things - Electric Eels, Simply Saucer, etc