worzel ha ha pink floyd ha ha
worzel ha ha pink floyd ha ha
wonk_vitesse
radio eros
isn't it scary that Newsnight think's U2 are worth discussing? Harris continually pushes his agenda of 90s music >Last Party as if nothing much happened except Britpop.
john eden
male pale and stale
I found his site very alarming for two reasons. Firstly, he is the same age as me.
Secondly, this is actually a very good article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,1929928,00.html
swears
preppy-kei
Yeah, he makes some good points there. I can't imagine owning my own place, and I'm on a reasonable wage. You have a tiny percentage of city workers that are on silly money, and it's in their interest to keep people borrowing and spending to keep the economy "afloat". I still think he's a tit when it comes to music though.
baboon2004
Darned cockwombles.
It's an excellent, common sense-based article -there is indeed a ridiculous London media-centric vision of how affluent people are, that ends up pushing up prices in every area of life - be that houses or CDs, restaurants or clothes - because idiots believe it. And it's fucking irritating and depressing.
Mind you, that 'reggae' article was appalling.
The "faint whiff of inverted snobbery and mild class hatred", maybe?
It maybe time to shoot me right down but, to be honest, I recognise what the arse-tastic Harris is getting at with the reggae piece. When I went to university in the mid-80's I did notice that the public school educated/wealthy/middle class mates I made had an overwhelming preferance for reggae. It was like some badge they had to wear to broadcast their 'authenticity' or something. This is not to make a value judgement about the music, nor those middle class friends who liked it (and certainly not to impose some sort of dictum stating that they weren't allowed to like that music cos of their background, or that they should obliged to listen to white, rock etc) - just that, like Harris, I was really struck by what a thing it was amongst those from what I saw as a privileged background. There was whole snobbery too about how 'black' 'deep' 'authentic' etc the reggae they liked was.
Just a sorta phenonomena, is all.
Interesting to speculate what it was all about too...
Just a sorta phenonomena, is all.
Interesting to speculate what it was all about too...
Slothrop
Tight but Polite
It's a good thing we've got Dissensus to defend us from inverted snobbery and mild class hatred isn't it.
Rachel Verinder
Well-known member
Unbelievable yet also sadly believable, this:
http://arts.guardian.co.uk/filmandmusic/story/0,,1982573,00.html
Maybe Worzel should try his luck elsewhere. I hear the BNP in-house magazine is in need of writers.
http://arts.guardian.co.uk/filmandmusic/story/0,,1982573,00.html
Maybe Worzel should try his luck elsewhere. I hear the BNP in-house magazine is in need of writers.
Guybrush
Dittohead
I think you should dispute what he is writing instead of just thrashing him in general. In my opinion, funk (and also James Brown, though I refrained from criticising him in the memorial thread out of tactfulness) is ridiculously overrated, most funk jams make me dizzy with indifference. Having said that, I will fiercely defend jazz-funk any day of the week.
Rachel Verinder
Well-known member
i saw him on newsnight and actually found myself agreeing with most of what he had to say (esp on borat and its racial stereotypes etc), despite what ive read from him. hes not that bad. edit - actually i just read the JB article. fuck him for saying funk is the worst thing ever, lol, although i do actually agree with him about a few things. still, despite some of the more unfortunate things funk brought aroun, saying its the worst genre ever is just stupid. like 70s rockers like led zep werent self indulgent. the 70s was all about self indulgence regardless of genre!
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John Harris: and 2) as with so many things, [funk's] wholesale appropriation by a certain kind of white person.
The certain kind of white person who decides reggae is "irie" in middle age? i await the "actually i always liked funk" piece when John comes to his senses in his 60s.
The certain kind of white person who decides reggae is "irie" in middle age? i await the "actually i always liked funk" piece when John comes to his senses in his 60s.
cos it sounds horrible a lot of the time
not always
but it can often be as bad as horrifically corny and cheesy rawk guitar solos
just a lot of speed-slap-bass wankery
the fact a lot of bassists resort primarily to slapping when its their turn to solo at soul/R&B gigs as well is even worse (like hub of the roots - they have not one bassline in their music that has a slapped bassline but when its his time to solo, he thinks he must slap the strings)
not always
but it can often be as bad as horrifically corny and cheesy rawk guitar solos
just a lot of speed-slap-bass wankery
the fact a lot of bassists resort primarily to slapping when its their turn to solo at soul/R&B gigs as well is even worse (like hub of the roots - they have not one bassline in their music that has a slapped bassline but when its his time to solo, he thinks he must slap the strings)
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dubversion
Guest
not a big fan of Harris, to be fair, but he was pretty much on the money in that piece.