this radiohead thing then.
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crackerjack
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I'm gonna break cover and fess up to cardie-owning. A stylish way to bridge the gap between late youth and middle age.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
But not *too* strong, because then they'd have to go and sit down to have a bit of a rest. And maybe write a little poem about it.
I'm gonna break cover and fess up to cardie-owning. A stylish way to bridge the gap between late youth and middle age.
i own several cardigans and am unashamed
oh thats quite disappointing. to me they will remain cardigan thumpers
what does it mean to thumb a cardigan?
a cardigan thumber is someone that makes holes in the ends of their cardigan sleeves with their thumbs, like a kind of extended fingerless glove, for people who want to pretend they don't have a body by covering it in baggy cardigan wool.
they're paranoid androids aren't they?
vimothy
yurp
Not sure I believe that - aren't most "genuine innovators" only guilty of ripping off somebody else in their turn?
("Talent borrows, genius steals").
RobJC
Check your weapon
Can you actually legally listen to this new release anywhere? - if Radiohead wanted to create a new distribution ethos, then you would be able to perhaps listen to the material one-off, and then if you liked it, purchase it at the price you felt it was worth.
I personally don't think any progressive commercial selling structure works for a media that is as emotionally charged as music - its not like buying any other consumable good when it is a personal - reputation and fan base will still dictate whether you will get any sales to begin with, and when the fanbase was initally funded by fixed price/distribution selling, it seems a bit hypocritical you now jump ship and try and sell though a more ethical framework without acknowledging the past.
Or something.....
I personally don't think any progressive commercial selling structure works for a media that is as emotionally charged as music - its not like buying any other consumable good when it is a personal - reputation and fan base will still dictate whether you will get any sales to begin with, and when the fanbase was initally funded by fixed price/distribution selling, it seems a bit hypocritical you now jump ship and try and sell though a more ethical framework without acknowledging the past.
Or something.....
crackerjack
Well-known member
You can enter 0.00p. Then if you're overwhelmed by the majesty of the thing, you can go back and download it again for whatever you deem your 'emotional charge' to be worth.
noel emits
a wonderful wooden reason
It's OK if you are doing something new with what you take from your forbears, it's boring if all you are doing is repackaging and passing off as your own. Radiohead with prog / can / musique concrete / electronica, Hot Chip and their whiter than white 2-step appropriations, Franz Ferdinand and a million neo-post-punk groups. I quite like Stereolab though, at least they were nicking from stuff that was less obvious, and they properly steal.
I suppose having a wide range of influences is to be applauded really, as long as they are assimilated properly. Anyway I think it's the cardigan thumping that really bugs me about Radiohead.
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vimothy
yurp
I don't think, for example, that Radiohead are doing the same thing as Autechre, by any strech of the imagination. And they still sound like Radiohead.
It's either good or it's bad, IMHO. Whether it's new or original is less important.
crackerjack
Well-known member
So Radiohead are fusing prog, krautrock, musique concrete and electronica with indie, yet somehow they're not doing anything original? Likewise Hot Chip mashing white electro-pop with 2-step?
I really don't get this line of thinking.
noel emits
a wonderful wooden reason
Taking really good music and turning it into dull miserable bland shite for people who don't know or want to know about it's roots could be seen as original I suppose. :slanted:
Fusing prog, Krautrock, musique concrete and electronica with 'indie' actually sounds like the world's worst idea anyway. I mean why the fuck would you want to do that?
Hot Chip are just revolting though. Pure nastiness for smugonauts and people who don't actually like dance music. Cynical indie twats that they are.
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vimothy
yurp
Exactly - "stick to what we think you should know as a white, middle class indie band..."
I've been feeling recently that if there's one thing that's more boring than the bland and the generic, it's elitism.
noel emits
a wonderful wooden reason
This ain't about elitism. I want to see imagination and colour and experiment in popular music, totally. Those groups aren't it though. And why does the world need more white middle class indie bands turning everything they touch into white middle class indie mush like some kind of grey goo?
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