jonny mugwump

exotic pylon
ha awesome, you nailed it- JOOLS HOLLAND.

Its hard to work out which part of that "show" i hate the most but i think it must be the beginning bit when everyone does there what-we-need-is-a-great-big-melting-pot jam.

That sucks much worse than death.

Oh, yeah, the audience. If Holland wheeled out Mussolini with a ukulele he'd be on the receiving end of that Q/MOJO-addled vaguely dispassionate applause.

God, i fucking hate jools holland.

Bastard.

What was that album called- Big Band Small World. what in the....

ok, i have to stop- my last remaining hair fell out through stress
 

mixed_biscuits

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ha awesome, you nailed it- JOOLS HOLLAND.

Things that I hate about Jools Holland's show:

- He's the Quasimodo of faux-integrity (my brother's contribution)
- Smothers everything in generic boogie-woogie
- The audience are fenced off from the VIPs, and stand goggle-eyed, complacent and stupid, like sheep in a pen
- No discrimination: despite pompous 'proper muso' atmos, he just gets the not-so-famous, almost popular, acts (No chance of Madonna on it, then).
- Blatant bandwagon jumping that snobs aren't supposed to like (Adele, Duffy - all the flavours of the month)
- 'It's the amazing...' and then some over-hyped bint fails to sing in tune to incompetently-rendered backing music
- Bands waiting by their kit unproductively, as if they're frozen in time, before the magical ringmaster brings them to life
- Jools Holland's voice
- When he talks to the smug celebs with his whiny voice
- No chance of Autechre being invited to the party
- It's a Top Gear for music, without any funny bits
 
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noel emits

a wonderful wooden reason
Haha, "Radioread"! Is that better or worse than Dread Zeppelin? :D
Ah, Dread Zeppelin - the most novelty band of all time. Not content to settle for doing reggae covers of Zep songs they employ an Asian Elvis impersonator on vox. Marvelous.

By the way, did you know that Jonny Greenwood was the controller?

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Can anyone curate a Trojan compilation now?
 

michael

Bring out the vacuum
Haha, "Radiodread"! Is that better or worse than Dread Zeppelin? :D

Terrible pun aside, some of that album's really good, I reckon. Toots doing 'Let Down' is awesome. Sounds really joyous, which I guess makes no sense at all given the material, but who cares. :)

Surely better than that Radiohead covers album with Mark Ronson, Herbert, Sa-Ra and so on, anyway...
 

Agent

dgaf ngaf cgaf
they're holed up in a bunker somewhere, but I have to go with the Beastie Boys. I've always been a fan, and they give a great live show, but their last album was incredibly sub-par by their standards, yet it somehow got rave reviews from virtually everyone, including the rare ***** ie "Classic" designation from Rolling Stone. Can anyone name a single song from To the 5 Borroughs without looking it up?
 

PeteUM

It's all grist
A few New Years ago I endured a day of bickering about who was going out and who was babysitting, amidst some particularly tangly personal relationships, but eventually ended up escorting two women to two parties that I wanted to be at but they didn't. Then they made me take them home almost immediately on arriving, but on the way decided to go to another party and let me go home to relieve the babysitter. This was how I ended up watching KT Tunstall on Holland's friggin' Hogmanay in a soul-kickingly bitter, drunken-stoned cloud of TV hate, and almost not bothering to carry on with the year at all.
 

Agent

dgaf ngaf cgaf

pretty much, but I remember he got SLAMMED for "Angels with Dirty Faces." And he was pissed about it too.

a few more off the top of my head:

anyone with riot grrrrl cachet, The Breeders being the worst offenders
Beck
REM
De La Soul
probably Lydia Lunch
 

michael

Bring out the vacuum
pretty much, but I remember he got SLAMMED for "Angels with Dirty Faces." And he was pissed about it too.
Yeah, I was sure Tricky got pretty much dismissed post-Maxinquaye, but I guess, as with e.g. Bowie, there is that element of each album being heralded as a return to form (with an admission that the last album was actually pretty crap).

I remember David Toop giving Pre-Millenium Tension a bad review in The Wire - said something to the effect that Maxinquaye worked because it was so close to being a normal pop record, and PMT fell down because Tricky was obviously trying too hard to be weird... not realising that sounding "experimental" killed the genuine weirdness / interest of the first one.

I guess I remember because I totally agree.
 

mms

sometimes
pretty much, but I remember he got SLAMMED for "Angels with Dirty Faces." And he was pissed about it too.

a few more off the top of my head:

anyone with riot grrrrl cachet, The Breeders being the worst offenders
Beck
REM
De La Soul
probably Lydia Lunch

yep thats a good list of ppl who were once ok for about 5 mins but it's really dragged out for a decade or so too long. The breeders are particularly dull, their new album is torturous, i mean they had what one song that's vaguely memorable in an indie cannon way, that's to say indie is a particularly stiff joyless genre.

you can add to that list Pavement, never was there a more annoying group, lauded now because they've slightly outgrown their roots, but so what?
The yank radiohead.
 
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bunnnnnn

Well-known member
villalobos


not really feeling 'enfants' - almost baffled by the amount of delerious verbiage that's been spent on it

more than likely i'd have felt the same way about 'fizheuer zieheuer' if i'd been familiar with the marching band sampled on that as with magma, but any record with children's choir singing in kobaian really shouldn't feel like such a treadmill.
 

aMinadaB

Well-known member
you can add to that list Pavement, never was there a more annoying group, lauded now because they've slightly outgrown their roots, but so what?
There are definitely plenty of bands more annoying than the pavement of slanted and enchanted, surely , ?

tbh i don't see how pavement can be considered a sacred cow (maybe the inverse lol), since they are almost universally held responsible for an entire generation of miserable white boy indie whining and today disdained by all but the most hardcore early 90s fan (of which I'm not, i might add). Together with J Mascis' rich boy nasal moaning, pavement made possible a whole decade of terrible rock music sung by boring 'disaffected' twentysomething men , meh

The funny thing about mascis and malkmus is that both were classic rock fans to the core who only briefly flirted with the idea of doing something actually modernist , there were some decent songs in the context of the time but i'd say that both dated very badly , mascis' voice was the template and excuse for untold subsequent vocal monstrosities by young males everywhere

surely Sunn 0))) have some sort of sacred cow status at the moment ?
 

mms

sometimes
There are definitely plenty of bands more annoying than the pavement of slanted and enchanted, surely , ?

tbh i don't see how pavement can be considered a sacred cow (maybe the inverse lol), since they are almost universally held responsible for an entire generation of miserable white boy indie whining and today disdained by all but the most hardcore early 90s fan (of which I'm not, i might add). Together with J Mascis' rich boy nasal moaning, pavement made possible a whole decade of terrible rock music sung by boring 'disaffected' twentysomething men , meh

The funny thing about mascis and malkmus is that both were classic rock fans to the core who only briefly flirted with the idea of doing something actually modernist , there were some decent songs in the context of the time but i'd say that both dated very badly , mascis' voice was the template and excuse for untold subsequent vocal monstrosities by young males everywhere

surely Sunn 0))) have some sort of sacred cow status at the moment ?

http://www.listsofbests.com/list/55

number 3 - pitchfork's best of the 90's - something of a sacred cow its self
i'd agree o'malley is a bit of a sacred cow for sure.
 
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