the legacy of minimalism in music through out the ages, cross cultures; and the deep connection of today's techno to ancient sound forms.
Proto-Minimal Techno
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the legacy of minimalism in music through out the ages, cross cultures; and the deep connection of today's techno to ancient sound forms.
how much space did that take up DJ PIMP? 12 centimeters? you can't handle something outside of your little box? and you can not appreciate that it is where your little box comes from?
but ok ok, christ on a minibus... on a more recent tip, i'm pretty sure richard kirk and the cabs had something to do with it... beltram, baby ford, also that guy called... george? geoffrey?
before that moroder, OMD, the normal, depeche mode and the cheesier s'express, c+c for sure put in their 0.5 cents in as well. and before that funkadelic, motown, etc etc etc
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shaolinsoul
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how much space did that take up DJ PIMP? 12 centimeters? you can't handle something outside of your little box? and you can not appreciate that it is where your little box comes from?
but ok ok, christ on a minibus... on a more recent tip, i'm pretty sure richard kirk and the cabs had something to do with it... beltram, baby ford, also that guy called... george? geoffrey?
Screw it, minimal started with ancient african tribal jams. No nonsense bongo ruffage.
mistersloane
heavy heavy monster sound
zhao don't come trolling my daniel bell thread with your gourdno
lol
baboon2004
Darned cockwombles.
Studio 1/Mike Ink, lots off Kreisel 99, all the stuff coming out of Cologne in the 90s (was there a label called Structure on which most of this kind of stuff was on, or am I misremembering?)...The Modernist fits into this I suppose too....
Leo
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this was the whole liquid sky cologne/dr.walker/jammin' unit scene, right? some classic stuff, remember many a saturday afternoon in temple records (downstairs in the liquid sky store in nyc on lafayette st) flipping thru the vinyl racks as khan, db and others spun that stuff over the soundsystem.
off-topic but related:
damn...it's a cryin' shame that there are nearly no record stores left in all of new york where you can do that anymore, just hang out, flip thru records, play stuff on their decks and listen to the guy behind the counter/dj spin tracks. maybe at turntable lab and halcyon, but not much else.
even remember once visiting gramaphone in chicago on a sunday afternoon and derrick may (who gigged in town the night before) was there, listening to/spinning new stuff on the store system...he was just another guy in the store, no one bothered him or anything. sad to think that i'll probably never have that type of experience again.
baboon2004
Darned cockwombles.
even remember once visiting gramaphone in chicago on a sunday afternoon and derrick may (who gigged in town the night before) was there, listening to/spinning new stuff on the store system...he was just another guy in the store, no one bothered him or anything. sad to think that i'll probably never have that type of experience again.
You could have played "James Brown is Dead" or soemthing to annoy him...
Yeah, I reckon The Modernist definitely fits the tracky, "cute" end of things. Not exactly raw production though... mind you a lot of it does sound like he's just using general midi on an old Soundblaster or something. Haha.
Are you talking about his recent "Climb" EP. I'm digging that one.
No-one's mentioned Patrick Pulsinger yet. I love his "Porno" album. That IO "ADSR" album on Cheap is also good.
I'm guessing every knows about "Metri" by Ø.
Speaking of Tresor their Vol. 3 compilation is jam packed with classics from such as Maurizio, Beltram, Mills, Bell, Hood etc etc..
Most of the old Beltram stuff is essential. Anyone heard his recent stuff?
shaolinsoul
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Niderflur - nd4
Awesome album.
Really minimal techno with very very heavy bass. I like to pump it in my car and watch everything rattle!
Awesome album.
Really minimal techno with very very heavy bass. I like to pump it in my car and watch everything rattle!
i know you rolled your eyes seeing my reply to this thread but trust.
more and more realizing that this Henrik Schwarz is a real interesting fellow, after discovering a track which i thought was south african on NGOMA3 was his remix of the Norway singer. his new mix/comp project is not only one of the most interesting listens i've come across in a long minute, but fits the topic at hand PERFECTLY; some may be a bit far fetched, but less so than my previous indigenous music post (which was of course also valid, whether you see it or not), but all sounds are total precursors to the minimal my ass.
CD1 - Mixed
01. Steve Reich & Pat Metheny - Electric Counterpoint - Fast (Movement 3)
02. Etienne Jaumet - Repeat After Me (Ame Mix)
03. Kenneth Bager - Fragment Elevenà The Day After Yesterday Pt.1
04. Liquid Liquid - Lock Groove (Out)
05. Cymande - For Baby Oh
06. Patrick Moraz - Metamorphoses 1st Movement (Live)
07. To Rococo Rot - Testfeld
08. Mathematics - Blue Water
09. I:Cube - Acid Tablet
10. O - Atomit
11. Conrad Schnitzler - Electrocon 11
12. Green Pickles feat. Billy Lo & M. Pittman - Feedback
13. La Funk Mob - Motor Bass Gets Phunked Up (Richie Hawtin’s Electrophunk Mix)
14. John Carpenter - The President Is Gone
15. Yusef Lateef - The Three Faces Of Bala
16. Robert Hood - Minus
17. Raymond Scott - Bass-Line Generator
18. Moondog - Invocation
CD2 - Unmixed
01. Conrad Schnitzler - Elektrocon 11
02. Steve Reich & Pat Metheny - Electric Counterpoint - Fast (Movement 3)
03. Liquid Liquid - Lock Groove (Out)
04. To Rococo Rot - Testfeld
05. Patrick Moraz - Metamorphoses 1st Movement (Live)
06. Young Marble Giants - N.i.t.a
07. Kenneth Bager - Fragment Elevenà The Day After Yesterday Pt.1
08. Arthur Russell - Make 1, 2
09. John Carpenter - The President Is Gone
10. Robert Hood - Minus
11. Raymond Scott - Bass-Line Generator
12. Pyrolator - November Muhlheim
13. Cymande - For Baby Oh
14. Can - Sunday Jam
more and more realizing that this Henrik Schwarz is a real interesting fellow, after discovering a track which i thought was south african on NGOMA3 was his remix of the Norway singer. his new mix/comp project is not only one of the most interesting listens i've come across in a long minute, but fits the topic at hand PERFECTLY; some may be a bit far fetched, but less so than my previous indigenous music post (which was of course also valid, whether you see it or not), but all sounds are total precursors to the minimal my ass.
CD1 - Mixed
01. Steve Reich & Pat Metheny - Electric Counterpoint - Fast (Movement 3)
02. Etienne Jaumet - Repeat After Me (Ame Mix)
03. Kenneth Bager - Fragment Elevenà The Day After Yesterday Pt.1
04. Liquid Liquid - Lock Groove (Out)
05. Cymande - For Baby Oh
06. Patrick Moraz - Metamorphoses 1st Movement (Live)
07. To Rococo Rot - Testfeld
08. Mathematics - Blue Water
09. I:Cube - Acid Tablet
10. O - Atomit
11. Conrad Schnitzler - Electrocon 11
12. Green Pickles feat. Billy Lo & M. Pittman - Feedback
13. La Funk Mob - Motor Bass Gets Phunked Up (Richie Hawtin’s Electrophunk Mix)
14. John Carpenter - The President Is Gone
15. Yusef Lateef - The Three Faces Of Bala
16. Robert Hood - Minus
17. Raymond Scott - Bass-Line Generator
18. Moondog - Invocation
CD2 - Unmixed
01. Conrad Schnitzler - Elektrocon 11
02. Steve Reich & Pat Metheny - Electric Counterpoint - Fast (Movement 3)
03. Liquid Liquid - Lock Groove (Out)
04. To Rococo Rot - Testfeld
05. Patrick Moraz - Metamorphoses 1st Movement (Live)
06. Young Marble Giants - N.i.t.a
07. Kenneth Bager - Fragment Elevenà The Day After Yesterday Pt.1
08. Arthur Russell - Make 1, 2
09. John Carpenter - The President Is Gone
10. Robert Hood - Minus
11. Raymond Scott - Bass-Line Generator
12. Pyrolator - November Muhlheim
13. Cymande - For Baby Oh
14. Can - Sunday Jam
padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
oh man, Zhao - don't you think ppl might be a little more accomodating to your views if you weren't so abrasive about them? I mean, respect for your serious digging into African & other indigenous musics (as well as African techno & house), but come on now. it's not as if anyone would disagree with you that much African & other indigenous music has elements that can be found in modern techno, nor that there's a long history of indigenous music from Africa/Asia/India etc influencing western musicians, composers & producers...but man if the topic is "proto-minimal techno", specifically refererencing Dan Bell, then of course people are going to look askance when you go off about African indigenous music...really is this the kind of stuff that drives ppl nuts I reckon...
I mean, come on now...this whole attitude is just nonsense. could it be that ppl are often dismissive (admittedly sometimes a little harshly) of your views cos you have the habits of 1) making absurd statements about topics you don't know anything about &/or 2) interrupting every thread about modern electronic music to scoff down at it from your enlightened perch? no, I guess it's cause the rest of us are a bunch of pith-helmeted bigots sneering down at the "people that live in mud huts". jesus wept...& you wonder why ppl get so shirty with you man...
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padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
also for the record that mix you mentioned above sounds totally f***in' ace.
yeah ok ok. i hear what youre saying. but you see i've got a post colonial axe to grind, and the retarded eurocentrism which i perceive is not imagined. perhaps a bit less on this board than other places... but yes, thanks for teh comment, i will indeed try to be less "abrasive" about it in the future. and yes bringing up Ancient Minimalism in a proto techno thread was a bit far fetched... i should have just started another one. but christ on a waterbed i just like to stretch the topic to places that no one else would go sometimes.
what i really want to do though is make an answer to this Schwarz mix... one that takes an even bigger, much bigger, view of minimalism through not only the 20th century, but thousands of years.
have you heard the Schwarz mix? should i PM you? was riding my bike last night with it and it does sound pretty good.
what i really want to do though is make an answer to this Schwarz mix... one that takes an even bigger, much bigger, view of minimalism through not only the 20th century, but thousands of years.
have you heard the Schwarz mix? should i PM you? was riding my bike last night with it and it does sound pretty good.