censorship on dissensus: the disappearance of the confessions thread

Mr. Tea

Mr. Tea

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Martin Dust said:
people on the internets like other people to be wrong
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Mr. Tea

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polz said:
interesting how it is the americans over here (zhao, nomad), who seem to have a problem with the deletion (not closing but deleting, as if it never existed) of threads and banning of users and subjects, while the brits dont care (its not worth it, not important) or even support it, as long as the censors, i mean mods, have "a good reason". Seems like you cant escape the place you were born.
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I'm not sure I get you: American society as a whole is generally more censorious than British society, I'd have said, be it from a right-wing prospective ('family values', concern over 'blasphemy') or a left-wing one (political correctness). Of course that doesn't mean all Americans think that way, but it you're generalising about a whole country, I'd say you've got it the wrong way round...
 
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bassnation

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polz said:
interesting how it is the americans over here (zhao, nomad), who seem to have a problem with the deletion (not closing but deleting, as if it never existed) of threads and banning of users and subjects, while the brits dont care (its not worth it, not important) or even support it, as long as the censors, i mean mods, have "a good reason". Seems like you cant escape the place you were born.
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i don't believe in unlimited freedom of speech, when it concerns racism. i don't see what this has to do with being british, american or any other nationality.
 
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polz said:
when people saying they dont like iraqis or they dont like that there is a lot of lying in africa would be what racism is about, this world would be a lot better of.
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its clear that if you wish to express such sentiments, this is not the place to do it. i'm not sure where your going with this line of thought, just seems nonsensical to me. who on this forum says they don't like americans? what does this have to do with anything? i dunno, if this is the proposed level of discussion and quality of argument, maybe this thread needs to be locked or deleted too. theres always BNP and far right sites for topics like this.
 
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Mr. Tea

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It's probably worth pointing out that there is no such 'race', or ethnic group if you prefer*, as 'American', since there are Americans of just about every ethnic origin in the world, so it's questionable whether a blanket hatred of Americans really counts as racism, per se. Then again, Iraq itself is ethnically heterogenous (though not to anything like the same extent). I don't think there's anything wrong with saying you don't like (some aspects of) the culture associated with a particular country or area of the world, but you'd still sound like a fool to say you "hate Americans" (for instance) just because you've met some Americans that rubbed you up the wrong way.


*leaving aside the done-to-death argument about whether race exists or not...
 
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Mr. Tea said:
you'd still sound like a fool to say you "hate Americans" (for instance) just because you've met some Americans that rubbed you up the wrong way.
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To be fair to that poster he did say it was a 'confession', he didn't claim it was a rational or admirable position. That was the point of the thread. I think it might be of value to discuss irrational prejudices openly and honestly but a public forum on the internet, even this one regrettably, is not the best place to try and do it.

It might have been interesting to look at the statements in that thread and maybe it is a shame it went but in reality I think if you've any experience of internet forums it didn't bode well really. I would like to have seen where things went but at the same time I can understand people being wary. Bloody wishy-washy Brits. ;)
 
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Polz - I don't think your stereotyping Americans as more likely to complain than Brits is very interesting or scientific given the tiny sample present in this thread and the fact that people have given widely different reasons for what they have said about the actions taken.

I do think you are right that the outcome could have been different if the initial statement was 'I don't like Americans' - rather than some other group, although that is completely ignoring the fact that the OP called for others to air their 'confessions'.

Perhaps more useful would be to say why you think that might be the case? Or why you think it matters. Like Mr Tea says, it's not really meaningful to identify 'Americans' as a single group.
 
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zhao

there are no accidents
bassnation said:
its clear that if you wish to express such sentiments, this is not the place to do it.
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THERE ARE A LOT OF DRUNKS IN ENGLAND.

THERE ARE A LOT OF FATTIES IN AMERICA.

THERE ARE A LOT OF NERDS FROM CHINA.

THERE ARE A LOT OF UNFUNNY GERMANS.

THERE ARE SOME WEIRD ACCENTS IN CANADA.

THERE ARE A LOT OF CRIMINALS IN JAMAICA.

THERE ARE A LOT OF SNOBS IN FRANCE.

THERE ARE A LOT OF CRAZIES IN JAPAN.

AMEN.
 
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Mr. Tea

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zhao said:
THERE ARE A LOT OF DRUNKS IN ENGLAND.

THERE ARE A LOT OF FATTIES IN AMERICA.

THERE ARE A LOT OF NERDS FROM CHINA.

THERE ARE A LOT OF UNFUNNY GERMANS.

THERE ARE SOME WEIRD ACCENTS IN CANADA.

THERE ARE A LOT OF CRIMINALS IN JAMAICA.

AMEN.
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You forgot the snooty French and crazy Japanese. Pretty comprehensive list otherwise. :)
 
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polz said:
i didnt mean they are more likely to complain, i meant they were the defenders of freedom of speech, just as their country. Whereas the brits, from a country without a constitution, seem to be more ok with censorship. it was no big thing or scientific or anything, i just noticed it
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another laughable generalisation. "defenders of freedom of speech, just like their country"? i'm sure theres a lot of americans who'd take issue with just how good defenders of this particular human right their government is.

at the end of the day its a modded board, there are plenty of unmodded boards out there if its a major issue.
 
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zhao

there are no accidents
just saw that my COLLAPSE thread is gone too. presumably for sharing a piece of commercially available copywritten material.

understandable, but too bad you can not see the importance of this work beyond stupid petty copy right issues.

I have friends that are friends with Jarred Diamond. I can find out if he minds me giving out his book for free. I bet you my month's salary he doesn't.
 
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